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post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
Hi!

First of all: great Forum, I found lots of useful stuff already thanks!


I just got my new PEs with look px 12 jib bindings and I wonder where to mount them?
I've got Fischer RC skis for piste and bought the PEs mainly for the park, but also a bit for powder, though it'll be around 70% park, 10% piste (necessarily) and 20% powder.

I found a lot of stuff about the positioning of the bindings already. The most suggested position was +3 for it's all-mountain quality. Does that mean the middle of the boot will be on the +3 mark on the PE?

Also the size seemed to matter, mine are 169cm.

I plan on riding them a lot switch including switch landing etc., the question is if a core center mounting (+7? middle of boot on middle of ski?) is the right one for me though, since I also wanna be a bit in powder, or if I should go for a 4, or 4,5?
Or is that mounting a bit of "nothing really" only "a bit of everything" and buying (anyday...) a pure powder ski and go for center mounting?


I hope it's okay to open another thread about that topic, but I really couldn't find anything that specific and I've never seen anyone suggesting +4,5 or so. Should be fast to answer as well, I hope.


Please excuse my english, it's not my native language, hope it's understandable though :P
Thanks in advance!
Sol
post #2 of 11
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Originally Posted by StreamOfLife View Post
Hi!

First of all: great Forum, I found lots of useful stuff already thanks!


I just got my new PEs with look px 12 jib bindings and I wonder where to mount them?
I've got Fischer RC skis for piste and bought the PEs mainly for the park, but also a bit for powder, though it'll be around 70% park, 10% piste (necessarily) and 20% powder.

I found a lot of stuff about the positioning of the bindings already. The most suggested position was +3 for it's all-mountain quality. Does that mean the middle of the boot will be on the +3 mark on the PE?

Also the size seemed to matter, mine are 169cm.

I plan on riding them a lot switch including switch landing etc., the question is if a core center mounting (+7? middle of boot on middle of ski?) is the right one for me though, since I also wanna be a bit in powder, or if I should go for a 4, or 4,5?
Or is that mounting a bit of "nothing really" only "a bit of everything" and buying (anyday...) a pure powder ski and go for center mounting?


I hope it's okay to open another thread about that topic, but I really couldn't find anything that specific and I've never seen anyone suggesting +4,5 or so. Should be fast to answer as well, I hope.


Please excuse my english, it's not my native language, hope it's understandable though :P
Thanks in advance!
Sol
If your truly doing 70 percent park true center mount, and relize the skis will suck in powder.

this will be plus 2 centimeter of the further forward mount point.
post #3 of 11
Thread Starter 
Hey,
first of all thanks for your reply.
Well I actually bought them for the park mainly and as my first twin tip plus I don't really have money for a guide and/or the holy trinity so all my powder skiing would be a bit at the side of the piste...
Too bad they'd suck there :/ But you think it's worth center mounting them? would they suck anywhere outside the park being center mounted, or could I still have fun carving them? I know the PEs are not a "real" or "park only" ski, so it'd be bad if I "couldn't use" them anywhere outside the park.

What do you mean with "plus 2 centimeters of the further forward mount point"? And does it mean the middle of my boots sole will be on the very center of the ski?
I'm a bit confused by all the "core center", "mid sole", etc. I read about, probably because of my english skills
Can anyone maybe describe what "mounting them +4" (as an example) would mean exactly? (I gotta explain to the guy from my ski shop )

Let's say I mounted them +4 I would still be able to switch land a jump and so on, right? I don't really plan on doing 720s and so on, since I don't think I've got enough skill for that Maybe +4 would give me a bit more spinning action, but still good powder/tree performance? Dammit I really can't decide...


best regards,
sol
post #4 of 11
They are an excellent powder ski when mounted at 0.....as you move forward you give up float. But switch riding would be very scary.

IMHO, they aren't the best park ski. You might be better off with them as your freesking ski, mounted at +1 or +2, then get something else (cheap) to centermount for park.
post #5 of 11
Thread Starter 
Hmmm nah I don't really have the money at the moment...Plus I couldn't explain buying a third pair of skis.
What do you think about +4? Will all float be gone? I won't be much in powder, possibly just trees and I guess a nice turn is good there.

Now what does +4 etc. mean? On +4 of the scale on the PEs? With the middle of the boot?
I got really no skills in the park at the moment so I'd just like to explore it a bit.

Thanks for your answer anyhow!
best regards,
sol
post #6 of 11
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Originally Posted by StreamOfLife View Post
What do you think about +4? Will all float be gone? I won't be much in powder, possibly just trees and I guess a nice turn is good there.
Not having skied them there myself, I'm not sure. I would guess that they won't float much, but they are probably still manageable. A friend of mine skis the 169 at +3.5, but I don't know how he like them in powder....he mostly skis bumps.

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Now what does +4 etc. mean? On +4 of the scale on the PEs?
Yes...on the ski's scale, assuming they haven't changed it. 0 is the furthest back.
post #7 of 11
Thread Starter 
Hmm but +4 will be fine for switch landing and riding them switched a bit right? Maybe 3,5 is better...

Yup, the scale's still there, so with the middle of the boot on the +4 mark, right?

I just wanna try out twin tips and park though, bit rails/boxes (nothing special on them) and maybe 360s and that's it.
Thanks a lot so far!
post #8 of 11
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Originally Posted by StreamOfLife View Post
Hmm but +4 will be fine for switch landing and riding them switched a bit right? Maybe 3,5 is better...

Yup, the scale's still there, so with the middle of the boot on the +4 mark, right?

I just wanna try out twin tips and park though, bit rails/boxes (nothing special on them) and maybe 360s and that's it.
Thanks a lot so far!
I can't tell you, because I almost never ride switch. I ski the 179 mounted at 0. I've got another pair to mount up which will see more park, halfpipe and mogul use, but I will probably go +1 or +2. My older pair sees tree skiing, some powder, and rock ski use.

I can imagine it wouldn't be the best ski for switch, because the tips are so much wider than the tail, but I'm sure it can be done.

1/2 cm is not a big difference...go with the +4cm if you're mainly going to ski park.
post #9 of 11
Or you could mount up a Railflex binding and be able to adjust the mounting point to whatever you wanted on that day. Not sure how the Railflex would hold up to being used in the park regularly though?

I had mine mounted at +1.5 and skied them most of the time there, but did occasionally move the binding forward to get more quickness and edge hold when the conditions were hardpack.

Mike
post #10 of 11
I'm in a similar situation...but with a set of 07 Nothing But Troubles and the same bindings you're using.

I'll probably end up doing more of a traditional mount. While these will be park/trick skis, the reality is, I will not be spending 100% of the day in the park when on these skis.
post #11 of 11
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Glenn J View Post
I'm in a similar situation...but with a set of 07 Nothing But Troubles and the same bindings you're using.

I'll probably end up doing more of a traditional mount. While these will be park/trick skis, the reality is, I will not be spending 100% of the day in the park when on these skis.
Hmm it's probably the same with me...Well I've got another pair of skis but who'd change them within a day, plus it'd be great if I didnt have to take both pairs with me when I go on skiing holidays...

But I still think they won't suck just because of the mounting position anywhere outside the park.

@MikeC: Nah I already ordered the px 12, plus I think the railflex would be a lot heavier. When you would ride them with +1.5 in the park would switch landing and the twist still be okay?

@Highway Star: Hmm I guess it'll be okay for switch riding. As long as I don't get stuck in every little bump as I do with my regular ski I'll get used to it


thanks so far!
best regards,
sol
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