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Ski Tunimg Supplies - Beer???

post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 
Ok, I've got new brushes and hopefully enough wax to start tuning my skis for the 2008-09 season.

I still need to get beer, but I'm not surehow much beer will I need to tune 13 pairs of skis.

I've been able to find some wax need calculators on various websites, but how do you estimate how much beer will you need? Is there a per ski ratio or is it based on the number of wax cycles?
post #2 of 23
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Originally Posted by SkiNut View Post
Ok, I've got new brushes and hopefully enough wax to start tuning my skis for the 2008-09 season.

I still need to get beer, but I'm not surehow much beer will I need to tune 13 pairs of skis.

I've been able to find some wax need calculators on various websites, but how do you estimate how much beer will you need? Is there a per ski ratio or is it based on the number of wax cycles?
Brush, apply wax, let cool, scrape = 2 beers (per pair).

Edges for one ski = 1 beer (therefore 2 beers per pair)


You will need to come up with an estimated number of wax cycles for each pair of skis you have, and determine which need edge work. Then just do the math and its time for a B double E double R U N, beer run!

post #3 of 23
Thread Starter 
So is the formula

1 wax cylce = B+2E+2R+U+N ?
post #4 of 23
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Originally Posted by SkiNut View Post
So is the formula

1 wax cylce = B+2E+2R+U+N ?

Close... if you want to get technical about it, the formula would be:

S(2W+2E)=B+2E+2R+U+N

Where S = the number of pairs of skis to be tuned.
post #5 of 23
I don't think it's a linear equation. Probably inversely proportional.

The number of skis getting tuned or waxed...and properly.....is reduced relative to beer consumption amount.
post #6 of 23
...But the number of places in the queue you can jump in getting your skis tuned at a shop is directly correlated to the number of beers you give the shop guy.
post #7 of 23
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...But the number of places in the queue you can jump in getting your skis tuned at a shop is directly correlated to the number of beers you give the shop guy.
Not necessarily, just like waxing for conditions, you need to research the beer aptitude of the shop guy.

2 cases of warm weasle-piss and a chilled 12 of Moose Drool might carry a similar amount of line jumping power with the Moose Drool probably still coming out ahead by a half spot in line.
post #8 of 23
Clearly.

I prefer a temperature mix with a beer bribe, myself. Maybe 2, maximum 3 cold ones per shop guy, and then a warm six, half rack, case, etc. Don't want them sucking down too many before tending to my skis.
post #9 of 23
You will need a coeffecient for surface area of the base. Bigger skis require more refreshments.
post #10 of 23
1 Ski x 1 beer = 2 beer per pair.

For more than 1 pair, there is an inverse relationship of tune quality to additional beers. So for 2 pairs, add one additional beer to above. For additional pairs, add .5 beers per additional pair up to 10 pairs and then stop. So for 13 pairs, you would need: First pair 2 beers. 3rd pair 3 beers. For the next 10 pairs x .5 beers each or 5 more beers. Total 8 beers.

More than 8 beers, your tuning starts to get sloppy.

Leave the remaining 4 beers for the ride up the the MT Friday night.

Another - reason 12 packs are not just coincidence.

Finally, arrange the skis in an order such that you tune your fav babies first so they get the semi-sober TLC they deserve.
post #11 of 23
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More than 8 beers, your tuning starts to get sloppy.
too many WC trips. Switch to stronger.
post #12 of 23
Good start here, but there's more than just numbers involved...

You don't always use the same wax right? Following that protocol:

Children's skis: "Near Beer" (0.5% alcohol)

Beginner & Recreational: Lite Beer (must have twist top cap)

Twin-tips: Open choice, alternating with 1 Red Bull for each beer

All-Mountain Carver: Premium Lager

All-Mountain Cruiser: Stout (Porter for lengths > 180 cm)

FIS Rated: Malt Liquor (or Bocks in season if available)
**note: SG & DH should be tall boys or quart servings**

Any Hand Made Ski: Microbrew with local availability only.

Quantities have been covered pretty well in previous posts.
For those people who want to maintain consistency of wax results after the 5th pair (sometimes 2nd pair) the preferred practice is to save all beers until the end of the session. Note however, that this may still affect wax scraping the next morning.
post #13 of 23
XC skis?
post #14 of 23
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XC skis?
Homebrew or Hard Cider only.

Mike
post #15 of 23
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XC skis?
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Originally Posted by ctskierguy View Post
Homebrew or Hard Cider only.

Mike
One for kick wax, and one for glide?
post #16 of 23
Nope....
We have to factor in all the numbers here.

b = type of beer: important because a Coors light will be much less filling than a Brazilian brown beer.
ml = Size of bottle: obvious.
F = temperature, warm or cold room: makes you more or less thirsty.
s = Salty snacks on the side: same as above.
td = Time of day: dont want to get drunk before you have to go drive or ski for that matter.
w = weight of tuner, bigger you are the more you can drink.
l = length of skis, more to tune.
w = width of skis same as above.
p = purpose of skis. Race skis take longer.
c = cigar, cigarette I am guessing this influences intake as well.

Okay now someone make a formula
post #17 of 23
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Okay now someone make a formula
Here's a reliable formula :

post #18 of 23
of course if you are Canadian, German or Australian any given formula must be multiplied by 2....
post #19 of 23
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Originally Posted by waxman View Post
of course if you are Irish, Canadian, German or Australian any given formula must be multiplied by 2....
Fixed it for you
post #20 of 23
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Originally Posted by JayPowHound View Post
Close... if you want to get technical about it, the formula would be:

S(2W+2E)=B+2E+2R+U+N

Where S = the number of pairs of skis to be tuned.
Nice approximation however you left out the P variable.

S(2W+2E)=B+2E+2R+U+N - 2P

With that much beer you will need 2P every now and then.
post #21 of 23
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Originally Posted by T-Square View Post
Nice approximation however you left out the P variable.

S(2W+2E)=B+2E+2R+U+N - 2P

With that much beer you will need 2P every now and then.
I think it should be +2P instead of -2P. The more you have 2P the more room you make for more beer.

S(2W+2E)=B+2E+2R+U+N + 2P
post #22 of 23
For the econ majors around, someone please find a function to balance one's expenditure between ski wax and beer, for a given tuning budget.
post #23 of 23
Thread Starter 
Isn't one of the benefits of tuniing your own skis the money you save to buy more tuning supplies such as beer
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