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post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 
I am going to buy Oakley Crowbar goggles with persimmon lenses and I notice, that High Intensity persimmon costs almost twice more then simple persimmon lenses. So, is it worth the price and High Intensity persimmon significantly better then persimmon lenses? I am interesting in low light and foggy conditions. Also there is nothing mentioned in the Oakley web site either Crowbar goggles has dual or single lenses, but it is mentioned for other frames. Thanks
post #2 of 23
HI looks cooler, and it's a tiny bit darker. They're both double lenses. HI is worth the extra money to me, but I may just be a slave to fashion.
post #3 of 23
For general OK light conditions, the persimmon is adequate, but when it's nasty flat light and true difficulty seeing, I always have the HI's with me. Mandatory for a place like Whistler.
post #4 of 23
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Originally Posted by snofun3 View Post
For general OK light conditions, the persimmon is adequate, but when it's nasty flat light and true difficulty seeing, I always have the HI's with me. Mandatory for a place like Whistler.
Are you talking about the HI Yellow or HI Persimmon? I have both and HI Yellow is way brighter. I use it when it is snowing, but not if there is any chance of the sun breaking out. They're just too bright if it does.

edit: I also have the Pink Iridium - crazy bright I thought it would be darker, I can barely use it.
post #5 of 23
Wizdom's w/Persimmon on tramdoc right now for 35.
post #6 of 23
Thread Starter 
Thank you everybody, it looks I need persimmon ( not h.i ) for any day and h.i. yellow lenses for extra low light conditions
post #7 of 23
If you buy two lenses, no reason to go with standard persimmon as your darker lens.

HI persimmon blows HI yellow out of the water in flat light, imo, except at night under flood lights.

I have
Persimmon,
HI persimmon,
HI yellow,
Bronze Iridium,
and Clear.

Bronze Iridium is my all-time favorite and would be my one-lens quiver.

My two (for the price setting you posted above) = Bronze Iridium and Persimmon.

All 3 HI lenses I have owned have had a very minor fogging issue. I don't know why. They still unfog when moving, though. But Gondolas and long chairs require fog-prevention tactics.

My 2 lens quiver without trying to save money would be HI Persimmon and Fire. (My Bronze Iridium isn't quite dark enough on bright spring days.)
post #8 of 23
I don't know about the Crowbar, but the lenses are not that easy to switch out on the Wisdoms. If you really want a 2 lens quiver, you'll probably want to consider making it a 2 goggle quiver.

I've had a pair of persimmon Wisdoms for a few years and the lenses had gotten pretty scratched up. I just picked up a new gold iridium lens for it, which should cover me on sunny days.

I was thinking of picking up a second lens for flat light and night skiing, but when I installed my new lens I realized this was something I would not want to be doing all the time.

I love the Wisdoms, and with the helmet strap they've worked great with my Giro G9. (the original standard strap did not work with my helmet) I decided to buy a second pair of Wisdoms, with the HI Yellow lens, figuring I could easily switch the 2 pair between my single helmet strap.

When I got the new pair, I found that Oakley had redesigned the strap since I had bought the old ones. The new Wisdom strap has soft, pliable pieces where the strap meets the frame. The strap is also longer than the original standard strap, and has strips of tacky material to grip the helmet. I found that the newly designed Wisdom straps fit great with and without the helmet.
post #9 of 23

Night lens?

What's the first choice for "nights under the lights"?
post #10 of 23
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What's the first choice for "nights under the lights"?
clear
post #11 of 23
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What's the first choice for "nights under the lights"?
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Originally Posted by epic View Post
clear
agreed.

But- if you don't want a specialty lens for night riding, combine night with flat light = HI yellow.

I also second DropKick's advice about just buying multiple goggles. Swapping isn't all that torturous for an A-frame, but I find owning multiple frames results in longevity.

Another piece of advice; stick with one frame style so next year, you can just buy one more set and add to your modular-style quiver. Frames wear out before lenses do in my experience. That foam doesn't last more than a few seasons. My lenses are still immaculate.
post #12 of 23
I have Oak A frames....again, hard to transfer lenses and because they are so expensive and curved, I really dont want to carry the spare with me. I would go with the HI...I have received many a comment from friends..."how can you see" I have a feeling my lenses give me about 20% better vision than regular lenses. And they look cool.
post #13 of 23
I am curious what people think is the best lens for serious flat light conditions.

I have oakley crowbars - which I love.

I have 2 pair, one for normal-to-bright (Gold Iridium - 20% light transmission); and one that I hoped would be good for normal-to-flat (HI Persimmon Ir - 63% light transmission).

The Gold Ir lens is, in fact, great for sunny days.

The HI Persimmon Ir is not as good as I hoped for flat light conditions. It's not awful, but it's not good.

Sounds like the HI Yellow is the way to go.

Has anyone compared the HI Yellow to the HI Persimmon in serious flat light conditions?

TIA
post #14 of 23
I too subscribe to the multiple set of goggles quiver.

I've got 4 pairs of A-Frames and more than 4 lenses. It does pay to have multiple frames because the lenses get all crapped up and the frames take a beating if you swap lenses frequently. I generally use the Blue Iridium or Gold Iridium on bright days and the HI Yellow at night. For snowy conditions I'll use the HI Persimmon so that if it clears up I won't be blinded like I would be with the HI Yellow...unless it's blizzard like then I'll use the HI yellow. Decisions, decisions!
post #15 of 23
Like others have stated, HI Yellow (aka HI Blue) rocks in blizzard conditions and is the best I've tried when visibility is awful. But they are blinding if there is even the slightest sunlight so save them for the worst days.
post #16 of 23
I have both HI Yellow and HI persimmon.

Neither is better, both contrast slightly differently. Yellow can be too bright if it's not a straight up blizzard.
post #17 of 23
I easily agree with Samurai. I own both Hi Yellow and Hi Persimmon Oakleys. The Yellows seem slightly better in really flat light conditions. The persimmons are better for changing light. Neither will give you perfect vision with really flat snowing conditions. However both are a pleasant step up from any Bright Light Lens selection.
post #18 of 23
Thanks very much for the comments/insights.

I'm going to see if I can find a good deal on a HI yellow lens.
post #19 of 23
I actually use Oakley M frames most of the time, last year I bought a Hi-Intensity yellow lens for flat light. Works great for me. Also better peripheral vision.

BTW - I got better deal buying straight from Oakley's website then from a retailer.



Dave
post #20 of 23
I have HI Persimmon, HI Yellow and Pink Iridium. I think the Pink Iridium is best in the really flat light.
post #21 of 23
HI Blue is fantastic for night skiing and very low light conditions.
post #22 of 23
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Originally Posted by epic View Post
Are you talking about the HI Yellow or HI Persimmon? I have both and HI Yellow is way brighter. I use it when it is snowing, but not if there is any chance of the sun breaking out. They're just too bright if it does.

edit: I also have the Pink Iridium - crazy bright I thought it would be darker, I can barely use it.
I use the HI yellow and use them everyday. The sun doesn't bother my eyes but they help when the light gets flat at the end of the day.
post #23 of 23
if you are going to get two lenses get fire and HI Persimmon, i have both and that is all i need. in for your original question i think the HI is worth it if you have a diff pair for sun.
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