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post #31 of 51
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Originally Posted by Ski the East View Post
Ski-ra, check the below link out. I bought the medium waist/short length (last one) and they fit me fine with enough room to tuck in a base layer + a 100 wt. fleece (I needed 33 waist, 29 inseam).

http://www.climbhighoutlet.com/view/...ash=9c0f5a5057
Yeah not a fan of bibs (vs. just suspenders), but at that price and for that quality I might have considered them - they aren't super-high bibs. However, they lack one feature that has been added to the Stinger model that seems to have replaced these - accessible pockets (why the Theta's have pockets at the top of the bibs where you can't reach them without opening your jacket I can't understand). That's enough to make me stick with the TNF pants.

Thanks for the tip....
post #32 of 51
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Originally Posted by ski-ra View Post
...they [the Arcteryx SK's]lack one feature that has been added to the Stinger model that seems to have replaced these - accessible pockets...
Correction - it appears that the Theta SV's replaced the SK's both of which appear to be essentially identical. OTOH the similar Theta AR model has pockets in a better location for me and is the lowest bib Arcteryx makes. (Sorry but I was challenged by the Arcteryx website and didn't see any of these models even after visiting it several times).

Unfortunately the AR's seem too focused on the light-weight mountaineering end of things (I'm so picky, picky). So, other than Goretex, I'd rather pay $250 less to get more features (more pockets, lining, heavier materials, etc.). Oh well and thanks for bringing these choices to my attention!
post #33 of 51
Another option is snowboarder pants. I can wear the Smarty 686 "Original" pant in a medium and it fits fine (length + width). I can also wear most of the Sessions and Burton pants in a small (because they are made baggy for the park, the small fits me) and they fit fine too.

You are a bit smaller than me, so you might consider trying the Smarty 686 Original pant in the small size the next time you're looking. They do get cut up a bit by the ski edges, but I've had mine for a couple of seasons and they're not too bad (nothing that duct tape can't fix--I prefer the traditional silver/grey color).

I do not recall if the Smarty 686's come with attachments for suspenders (too lazy to look). I know there are no suspenders included with the pants.
post #34 of 51
I like skiing in bibs, because I like the overlap that keeps the snow and cold air off my back. I have had a really hard time getting a decent pair in the last few seasons. The Marmot bib I got as part of my uniform 2 seasons ago was great. One of the best I ever had. The Marmot bib I got last year was a piece of crap that almost no one liked or fit. My bibs that I own are Cloudveil Iceflows and I hate them. No more softshell on the legs for me. I don't understand why it is so hard to get a pair of ski pants that fit well and come up high like old man pants. Thats what I want.... Old man pants.
post #35 of 51
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Originally Posted by Yuki View Post
I think you worry too much. I still use my ancient old alligator clip suspenders and my ancient Marmot pants are just fine.
Same. only pants are TNF.
post #36 of 51
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Originally Posted by Ski the East View Post
Another option is snowboarder pants. I can wear the Smarty 686 "Original" pant in a medium and it fits fine (length + width). I can also wear most of the Sessions and Burton pants in a small (because they are made baggy for the park, the small fits me) and they fit fine too.
Good try and keep the hits coming. None of the snowboarder pants I've seen (including the 686, based on their website) have suspenders or come in short. In fact the snowboarder look appears to be just the opposite: include overly long pants - a look that is not a functional problem for snowboarding as it is for skiing....
post #37 of 51
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Originally Posted by tetonpwdrjunkie View Post
I like skiing in bibs, because I like the overlap that keeps the snow and cold air off my back. I have had a really hard time getting a decent pair in the last few seasons. The Marmot bib I got as part of my uniform 2 seasons ago was great. One of the best I ever had.
In my extensive research efforts I've found plenty of bib options expecially if you have a normal inseam length. Rather than try to quote what I've seen verbatim (I'm tired of looking at all of the manufacturer's confusing websites), all of the "mountaineering focused" companies make hard-shell bibs such that finding a pair that fits should be much easier than my challenge (finding suspendered pants with a short inseam). Arcteryx alone must make a 1/2 dozen bib versions. Of course all of these cachet-brand bibs are generally are quite pricey (not that the Cloubveils you now own weren't). Marmot also makes one and it too is pricey ($400).

I also saw in the stores many no-name (I just didn't look at the manufacturer since I didn't want bibs), low-priced bibs that should fit the bill as "old man" pants if you're tired of paying the price for the cachet brands, but you may not want to give up the superior construction, waterproofing, etc.

If you indeed have a normal inseam and are willing to spend the big bucks I do believe you should have plenty of choices, unless I misunderstood your dilemma....
post #38 of 51
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Originally Posted by ski-ra View Post
So any recommendations for a solid lead on a pair of higher quality small (30" waist) and short (28" inseam) suspendered ski pants? ... While I'm leery about buying something via the web without knowing if they'll fit, I just may have to...help
My endless search is complete and I've concluded that, other than some Arcteryx mountaineering-oriented bibs that weren't my thing, there appears to be only two models of a short-inseamed suspendered pant currently available: the TNF Varius Guide and the Spyder Tarantula. The TNF is definitely the better-designed pant, fits me perfectly, but unfortunately uses HyVent waterproof coating rather than a laminate like Goretex (I'm a snob about such things, even though there's been only positive EpicSkier posts about HyVent).

Hopefully this trend of the ski clothing manufacturers ignoring us stubby-legged skiers doesn't continue or I'll never find a replacement for these TNF's (or I'll start another post about adding suspenders to ski pants)....
post #39 of 51
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Originally Posted by oboe View Post

What about belts? I picked up a pair of Helly Hansens and a pair of Bogners that I got at clearance sales fro great prices, and they have belt loops. They're both that "almost while, a little maybe silver" kinda color. Where can I find an appropriate belt for them?

I have a Burton belt that I bought back in 2004. This belt is a tank. I not only use it as my ski/snowboard belt, it also functions as a year round, nearly daily use belt. It's five years old, and shows practically no signs of wear.
post #40 of 51
Forget those normal metal clips on pant syspenders doing anything more then fraying weather proof ski pants or Gore-Tex materials. Skiiers and snowboarders need a suspender clasp that holds up strong during those whiteout falls. The $19.95 cure are these Patented Ski-Ups made in the USA capable of using with any snow sportsmen. http://www.suspenders.com/skisuspenders.htm

Choice of Black or Tan adjustable straps on these Holdups.
post #41 of 51
McGuire Nicholas makes a great workman's suspender. I used them all last season. Despite being a metal clip, I have not experienced a problem of wear on the waistband nor an unintended release. BTW, the pants are Carhartts. Nice durable, only lacking a powder cuff. Pants and suspenders are a great alternative to bibs; I hate the way bibs overheat my core. I am a ski coach and my gear takes a beating. MN and Carhartts are up to the task.

http://www.mcguirenicholas.com/

http://www.carhartt.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/HomeView?storeId=10051&catalogId=10101
post #42 of 51
I know what you mean about suspenders.  I was thrilled to score some of these Arcteryx Theta AR pants at 65 percent off in a local shop's sale yesterday:
http://www.usoutdoorstore.com/outlet/arcteryx-theta-ar-bib.html

The Patagonia pants without suspenders that I bought a couple of weeks ago are going back.
post #43 of 51
I ski 70+ days per season. My usual pants are various Marmots and Spyders bibs with short inseam. Most are pushing 5+ yrs. I like the security of bibs - no plumber’s crack. Also bibs allow better flex in the mid section in bumps. Last year I switched to a pair of Kjus Formula pants (short inseam) – paid full price for them - $400+, worth every cent. The fit is fantastic, length is spot on, soft & comfortable, style is on the slim side. Matched them with a pair of black work suspenders with metal clasps – no slips at all, not off the shoulder or waist of pants. Hide the suspender under your vest if you are ashamed of them – Form follows function. Selection of suspender is almost a non issue – work suspenders will hold up a 30 lb work belt, a pair of ski pants is not much of a bother. The Kjus pants still look like new after 50+ days. They are comfortable in Vermont sub-zero days to 3 weeks of April spring skiing in Snowbird and everything in between. Warm and very breathable. Regarding being watertight – this is only pair of pants I ever had that remained totally dry after 6 hours skiing in a full blown Vermont rain storm – not a wet spot on my bottom baselayer. Will probably get another pair this year. European brand generally do better with short inseams pants.
post #44 of 51
http://www.descente.com/products/271017/D310

/win

i have those bad boys, and they are the perfect pant.  I absolutely love them
post #45 of 51

Anyone have any personal experience (reviews) of the "Ski-Ups" brand suspenders?

post #46 of 51
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Originally Posted by RiDeC58 View Post
You could sew buttoms onto the waistband thus still allowing easy removal, but no worries about "premature release" or clamps eating into fabric....just a thought.


Does Marker make suspenders?

post #47 of 51
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Originally Posted by WebmasterMike View Post

Forget those normal metal clips on pant syspenders doing anything more then fraying weather proof ski pants or Gore-Tex materials. Skiiers and snowboarders need a suspender clasp that holds up strong during those whiteout falls. The $19.95 cure are these Patented Ski-Ups made in the USA capable of using with any snow sportsmen. http://www.suspenders.com/skisuspenders.htm

Choice of Black or Tan adjustable straps on these Holdups.


I have 58 days on snow with these and have had no problems.  I bought them after seeing the quoted post above.  They hold better than other suspenders I've tried.

post #48 of 51



didn't any one get this?  Nice..... especially after the 9 month reserection of a dead thread......

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Originally Posted by snofun3 View Post




Does Marker make suspenders?

post #49 of 51

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post #50 of 51

Got some basic suspenders last season at Walmart - I think they cost $4.99.  I used them all last season and this season - no problems, no holes or abrasions where they clip on to my ski pants.

post #51 of 51

I have worn them for 2 seasons now and they are still going strong.  First solid quality suspender I have seen in years.  The clip has a new slanted clasp so it doesn't snag and open up.  Those things have never slipped yet.

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