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Jester vs. Griffon

post #1 of 30
Thread Starter 
If I am skiing at a 10 DIN is the Jester worth the $60.00 over the Griffon?
post #2 of 30
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
If I am skiing at a 10 DIN is the Jester worth the $60.00 over the Griffon?
while the higher din models don't necessarily mean better retention than lower din models, they very often mean better durability (i.e., added reinforcement). obviously 12 din vs. 14 din bindings that only have different springs is irrelevant, but in the case of the jester and griffon, i am almost certain that there is more plastic in the griffon. that's why i'd go with the jester. because unless you are a pretty BIG guy, you are skiing above your recommended din. too me, that indicates that on a somewhat regular basis, you push the envelope a decent bit and your gear takes the occassional beating. to me, that's a good enough reason to go for the (even if just slightly) burlier bindings
post #3 of 30
Thread Starter 
The housing are slightly different with some magnesium pieces in the Jester vs. composite in the Griffon. In handling (but not skiing) with both bindings, I didn't notice any difference in lateral flexibility. Has anyone skied both?
post #4 of 30
I show the Jester as a 16 DIN

Never figured you for a Marker man
post #5 of 30
jester is 16. I look at it this way, if the 60 is not a financial issue, then then the more solid binding ,may be a better choice given the outside chance it saves your ass one time.
post #6 of 30
quick pic for those not familiar...
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post #7 of 30
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post
jester is 16. I look at it this way, if the 60 is not a financial issue, then then the more solid binding ,may be a better choice given the outside chance it saves your ass one time.
I agree with Finn.
FWIW, I have a friend who is very knowledgeable about bindings and he said that you should always pick the binding with metal unless weight is an issue.
Hmmmm, who was that?
post #8 of 30
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post
I agree with Finn.
FWIW, I have a friend who is very knowledgeable about bindings and he said that you should always pick the binding with metal unless weight is an issue.
Hmmmm, who was that?

Phil.


What do I win?
post #9 of 30
You win an "ATTA BOY!!!"
post #10 of 30
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post
I agree with Finn.
FWIW, I have a friend who is very knowledgeable about bindings and he said that you should always pick the binding with metal unless weight is an issue.
Hmmmm, who was that?
Pick the Metal would be a good name for a band. Just saying.
post #11 of 30
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Rossi Smash View Post
I show the Jester as a 16 DIN

Never figured you for a Marker man
This binding seems to be the anti Marker Marker. I used to be a Marker guy back in mid 80's.
post #12 of 30
get the duke...you can go AT
post #13 of 30
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
This binding seems to be the anti Marker Marker. I used to be a Marker guy back in mid 80's.

Your M4-12 days?

I thought you were a BIG Salomon Equipe fan during that time span.....
post #14 of 30
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
This binding seems to be the anti Marker Marker. I used to be a Marker guy back in mid 80's.

The heel APPEARS to be similar to the Look PX series.....

Can't beat'um join'um?.......
post #15 of 30
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Rossi Smash View Post
Your M4-12 days?

I thought you were a BIG Salomon Equipe fan during that time span.....
M4-12 was back in the late 70's. Went from that to the 727 in early 80's then the MRR from 83-89 then back to Salomon when they came out with the 957.
post #16 of 30
Even though I know a jig when I see it-

The Jester is one of the lightest 16 din bindings on the market. And- nobody with your quiver is concerend about the 60 bones.

there- thread answered.

post #17 of 30
Lets take a collection for the 60 difference in price!

I'll start with $1.50
post #18 of 30
Thread Starter 
OK...points taken... Jesters.
post #19 of 30
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
M4-12 was back in the late 70's. Went from that to the 727 in early 80's then the MRR from 83-89 then back to Salomon when they came out with the 957.

So your imfamous DOORKNOCKER's are built with love and not distain.....
post #20 of 30
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post
Lets take a collection for the 60 difference in price!

I'll start with $1.50

I'll check the couch cushions and car seats
post #21 of 30
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Rossi Smash View Post
So your imfamous DOORKNOCKER's are built with love and not distain.....
Absolutely. I respected the MRR.
post #22 of 30
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Originally Posted by samurai View Post

nobody with your quiver is concerend about the 60 bones.


Spoken like a true gear whore. Nicely done!
post #23 of 30
Thread Starter 
The plan is to put the Griffons on my 100 waisted soft snow ski and the Jester on a yet to be determined 80 something ski because that will be torqued a bit more being on harder snow. Thoughts?
post #24 of 30
I was just looking at this - what did you end up doing. FWIW my logic would be to go the other way, because the fatties are a bigger ski. IDK though?!?
post #25 of 30
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
The plan is to put the Griffons on my 100 waisted soft snow ski and the Jester on a yet to be determined 80 something ski because that will be torqued a bit more being on harder snow. Thoughts?
the difference in stiffness and strenght is very little...

but

the stiffer/stronger binding on the wider ski is the way I would go because, stiffness in the binding will be better edge grip on the wider ski.

for instance.

look PX12ti on PE feel pretty solid, they arent great but for the price they are pretty good.

put the same binding on gotama or Legend pros and the heel feels very flishmy, and the binding flexs alot.

Put PX15tis on the bigger ski and the ski will feel like it has more edge grip.
post #26 of 30
good point. I think you are right. The wider bindings seem to be made for today's wider skis - makes sense.

But then again do I want another Marker binding issue - arg (see embarassing picture thread
post #27 of 30
Thread Starter 
I just ended up mounting Jesters anyway in both applications.
post #28 of 30
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
I just ended up mounting Jesters anyway in both applications.
I think that was a very good choice They should hold up better....
post #29 of 30
good move, nice bindings
post #30 of 30
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
I just ended up mounting Jesters anyway in both applications.
The words Jester and Philpug, go very well together.
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