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Boots with the least foward lean

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
What ski boots have the least amount of forward lean?
what are the degrees of each of them?
Thank you
post #2 of 10
Of the top of my head, I don't know any degrees of forward lean, but in general boots that are labeled "Freestyle" or "Park and Pipe" have less degrees of forward lean.

Think about landing off a huge kicker switch or a backwards landing in the pipe.

Do you have back problems or stance issues, or are you just looking for a boot that may be more comfortable than stiffer, more aggressive forward leaning boots?
post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 
This is in regards to Stance Issues.
I have limited amount of dorsiflexion. One foot is about 10 degrees and the other about 11 degrees. I ski in a Nordica 110 Doberman. However I find that I need a more of an upright boot because of the limited dorsiflexion and being over flexed in ski boots. I am not over flexing the ski boot but may not be standing tall enough to straighten the cuff of the shell. I am interested in the Dalbello Pro it seems to me to be more upright and you can adjust the forward lean. I have narrow feet. In regard to other boots such as the new Lange boots or other manufactures what are your thoughts? Also some say that Salomon Falcon boots are more upright than many manufactures. Is this true?
Thank you
post #4 of 10
Your solution is more complicated then simply finding a boot that has less forward lean.

With limited range of ankle dorsiflexion, you need a bootfitter to take a close look at your heel height/internal ramp angle. This is the crux move to get your hips centered over your feet when you have limited ROM.

Also bringing the tongue or front of the boot to your lower leg with a booster strap, or a raised shin plate/booster strap combo will allow you to get power to the front of the ski with less ROM.

Last but not least, look for boots that are on the stiffer side of 110 flex, so the boot cannot move more then your ankles ROM.

Where do you live? Perhaps we could suggest a good fitter in your area that could try some these tricks on your Dobe 110's.
post #5 of 10
+1 to the above.

You also need a heel lift to create a few more degrees of functional dorsiflexion. Choosing a straighter boot without using a heel lift will just put you in the back seat.
post #6 of 10
+2 on Starthaus, and +1 on Jdistefa! These guys are right on the mark.

An appropriate blend of ramp, forward lean, and delta angles for your particular needs will yield the best results. Finding someone who understands this relationship is key to your success!

Hey! and welcome to Epicski! Hope you find this forum useful.

post #7 of 10
Thread Starter 
I live in Michigan in the middle of the sate, I would be able to travel.
thank you for your input
post #8 of 10
I agree with these guys definitely. Your range of dorsiflexion will make it difficult to assume the position you want and Starthaus's concern about using a stiffer boot to protect your achilles is well founded.

However, be aware that although the use of a heel wedge will open your ankle joint and permit more ROM, increased ramp angle can keep you in the back seat for reasons related to the effect of requiring less forward movement being available before your center of mass (COM) moves in front of your ball of foot and eventually your toes. When this happens guess who falls over? That would be you.

Therefore, as you experiment with heel lifts you may also want to add in a toe lift outside of the boot to maintain a reasonable ramp angle.

post #9 of 10
To clarify a bit, I believe Lou is referring to "delta angle" when he said to add toe lift outside the boot. Remember we generally agree that "ramp" angle is created inside the boot and "delta" angle is created outside the boot by binding stand height differentials and boot sole lifters.

Decreasing the net forward lean inside by using heel lifts, and/or straightening the shaft via shin plates, etc., will better accommodate the lack of dorsiflexion and allow good heel contact with the boot sole for sure!

These adjustments may then tip the hips a bit too far forward, as Lou stated, for optimum balance causing the skier to shift the hips aft to compensate. If this is the case, you may need to adjust the delta angle between the boot and binding to bring the balance point back where it needs to be.

This is why working with a fitter who understands all these relationships is important as changing one parameter to solve one problem may require adjusting some others to optimize the set up.

Hope this helps to clarify?!
post #10 of 10
Thanks for that extra clarification Bud.

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