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post #31 of 57
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man made moguls? As in not created by people skiing?
As in created by hay bales with snow on them* or some variant thereof.

*Not a long term solution, of course, since moguls crawl uphill and would expose the downhill side of a slope-static object.
post #32 of 57
The seeded bumps I saw started as sine waves going up the hill about half as wide as a normal groomer's track, each exactly out of phase with the next. I don't know how the groomer makes these.

I think some instructors and patrollers took some runs through them to de-tune the edges before the public skied them, but it took a while for the bumps to become round. They were fun right away.
post #33 of 57
Sure, Roundtop does this.
post #34 of 57
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The seeded bumps I saw started as sine waves going up the hill about half as wide as a normal groomer's track, each exactly out of phase with the next. I don't know how the groomer makes these.
Just out of curiosity, what do you do for a living?
post #35 of 57
Human powered short haul freight deliveries.
post #36 of 57
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Human powered short haul freight deliveries.
ha ha ha, I like that!
One of the longest names/descriptions for one of the noblest professions.

You certainly have a knack for geek speak, I can't remember the last time I heard a mogul field compared with a sine wave, it definitely works though.

My college journalism proffers would be rolling in their grave if they knew that I approved of your unusual method of content delivery.
Then again if the same thing would happen if they saw any of my rambling, rarely proof read, incomprehensible, mistake laden forum posts.
post #37 of 57
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Yup, you're absolutely right. They certainly have a different crowd right after a dump. With that said though, they usually leave a small strip somewhat ungroomed on the far right of Mars Hill.
Shhh...isn't that secret?

BTW, you're still trying to avoid riding with me, aren't you?
post #38 of 57
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BTW, you're still trying to avoid riding with me, aren't you?
Trying to embarrass me in public?
post #39 of 57
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Although I haven't seen one but there supposedly is such a thing that grooms moguls.
Yes. Wachusett creates a field of these on the upper 10th Mountain Slope. They are perfectly symetrical - looks for all the world like a giant upside-down styrofoam egg carton. I think they do it for freestyle comps.

One time a few years ago, we had a large soft powder dump at night followed by a predicted picture-perfect sunny day. I headed up with the intent of catching freshies on the first chair, skiing into late morning, and heading to work for the afternoon. When I got there, the entire mountain appeared in front of me, bathed in brilliant sunshine - and groomed to flat corduroy everywhere! I didn't even bother to get out of the car....

You really can't blame them I guess - the average skier here just complains about ungroomed powder, and the heavy skier traffic quickly scrapes it off, so I think they pack it down to preserve it.
post #40 of 57
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Originally Posted by dumpy
man made moguls? As in not created by people skiing?
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Although I haven't seen one but there supposedly is such a thing that grooms moguls.
At Butternut, they use the front end of a groomer driving backwards and forwards to scrape up the top layers into a row of bumps. Then move backwards to make the next row. When they start getting iced up, they blow a few inches of man-made on top of them.
post #41 of 57
Oh, I forgot to mention... If you want good ungroomed stuff in CNY (or nearby anyway), try Snow Ridge. It's a very small and unknown area but it skis like a mini Northern VT moutain after a good lake effect (and that happens often up there -- in feet). It has similar tight twisting runs, bumps, trees and even some backcountry -- only shrunken by 3-4 times. That place pretty much leaves everything alone. I've never seen so many mid-fats and fats in NYS. And, the place is cheap.
post #42 of 57
There are also mogul grooming devices that pull behind a cat.

Or, there's the old fashioned method of placing bamboo in a grid to encourage the formation of symmetrical bumps.
post #43 of 57
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Oh, I forgot to mention... If you want good ungroomed stuff in CNY (or nearby anyway), try Snow Ridge. It's a very small and unknown area but it skis like a mini Northern VT moutain after a good lake effect (and that happens often up there -- in feet). It has similar tight twisting runs, bumps, trees and even some backcountry -- only shrunken by 3-4 times. That place pretty much leaves everything alone. I've never seen so many mid-fats and fats in NYS. And, the place is cheap.
Been there done that. Great place, reminds me of why I love being a skier. That place is about as pure of a ski are as you could be. Its small, its short, it's lodge is straight out of the 50s, the people are friendly and the snow, while slightly exaggeratedly by management, is very good for NY. I've never seen so many smiles at a ski area as at Snow Ridge (filled with Skoal of course).

I had a Song pass with the reciprocal deal with Snow Ridge for a few years. It was a great "snow back up" tottally different weather pattern up on the Tug.

Have you seen Wanderland? They make a quick a stop off at the Ridge in that flick and hit some Tug backcountry, cool stuff indeed.
post #44 of 57
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ha ha ha, I like that!
One of the longest names/descriptions for one of the noblest professions.

You certainly have a knack for geek speak, I can't remember the last time I heard a mogul field compared with a sine wave, it definitely works though.

My college journalism proffers would be rolling in their grave if they knew that I approved of your unusual method of content delivery.
Then again if the same thing would happen if they saw any of my rambling, rarely proof read, incomprehensible, mistake laden forum posts.
Haha, thanks, I guess. Actually, I was trying to be concise. Would freight biker have sufficed? Noble profession might be overstating it, but it is an unusual way to try to make a living in the developed world. There is only one other guy doing it full time in our nation's capital.
post #45 of 57
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I've never seen so many smiles at a ski area as at Snow Ridge (filled with Skoal of course).
I've seen more smiles but only at MRG. It just goes to show you that better doesn't mean more attitude.

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I had a Song pass with the reciprocal deal with Snow Ridge for a few years.
That's right. They do have a shared pass, don't they??
post #46 of 57
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Would freight biker have sufficed?
Nope. Unfortunately the term "biker" has evolved to imply a person with a life-style associated with twin-cylinder motorcycles, usually of the Hardy-Davidson variety.
post #47 of 57
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I just found out that the mountain (used very loosely) I got my pass at this year has a policy of grooming EVERYTHING down when they get over 4"!!!
LOL that's way too funny. Thank God Snowbird couldn't do that even if they tried.

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I want my $$ back!!
No kidding.
post #48 of 57
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Haha, thanks, I guess. Actually, I was trying to be concise. Would freight biker have sufficed? Noble profession might be overstating it, but it is an unusual way to try to make a living in the developed world. There is only one other guy doing it full time in our nation's capital.
nah not a big fan of the term freight biker, i like your geek speak or just the classic "bike messenger" it invokes images of fixies and huge cahonies.
Noble profession is far from an overstatement. You guys ride around increasingly crazy traffic to deliver packages without using fossil fuels. In today's politically/environmentally unstable times, that helps out quite a bit. When society as a whole goes Mad Max, you guys will be our life lines.
That and I'm a huge bike geek who wishes he could ride for a living!!

I'm absolutely shocked that there are only 2 in that town, mind blowing.
post #49 of 57
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nah not a big fan of the term freight biker, i like your geek speak or just the classic "bike messenger" it invokes images of fixies and huge cahonies.
Noble profession is far from an overstatement. You guys ride around increasingly crazy traffic to deliver packages without using fossil fuels. In today's politically/environmentally unstable times, that helps out quite a bit. When society as a whole goes Mad Max, you guys will be our life lines.
That and I'm a huge bike geek who wishes he could ride for a living!!

I'm absolutely shocked that there are only 2 in that town, mind blowing.
now like he carry heavy materiel and equipment and mass mailings. Like with a trailer. He is not just normal bike messenger.

I also dont think he would be caught dead on a fixie and most bike messengers at least here in the burgh do not ride fixies.
post #50 of 57
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I've seen more smiles but only at MRG. It just goes to show you that better doesn't mean more attitude.


That's right. They do have a shared pass, don't they??
I've seen lots of miserable people (usually the type that ski just because its an affluent persons sport) at huge mountains. I remember some pretty miserable people at Whistler and I kept thinking, all I've ever wanted to do is ski this mountain and your miserable because you are skiing it, WTF is that?
At most small mountains people feel the stoke, because honestly if they didn't love it why else would they bother.

Yeah, the guy that owned Snow Ridge for many years bought Song a few years back. He has since sold off the Ridge, but they have deals made with each other,.
post #51 of 57
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now like he carry heavy materiel and equipment and mass mailings. Like with a trailer. He is not just normal bike messenger.
Um thats even more kickass,

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I also dont think he would be caught dead on a fixie and most bike messengers at least here in the burgh do not ride fixies.
Honestly that probably makes a lot of sense, especially with a trailer, but even for the garden variety messengers. You lose some of the tough guy bragging rights, but why make it that much harder on yourself? I have heard riding sans free wheel is a great way to keep your bike from getting stolen though.

holy hell has this thread been hijacked
post #52 of 57
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I've seen lots of miserable people (usually the type that ski just because its an affluent persons sport) at huge mountains. I remember some pretty miserable people at Whistler and I kept thinking, all I've ever wanted to do is ski this mountain and your miserable because you are skiing it, WTF is that?
At most small mountains people feel the stoke, because honestly if they didn't love it why else would they bother.


I love the small mountain mentality- it's why I like the berkshires when it's snowing... Everyone's there for the same reason and it ain't sheer vertical or super-gnar terrain, for sure.
post #53 of 57
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now like he carry heavy materiel and equipment and mass mailings. Like with a trailer. He is not just normal bike messenger.

I also dont think he would be caught dead on a fixie and most bike messengers at least here in the burgh do not ride fixies.
really BW, take teh time to edit you what post just a wee bit befor hitting the "submit reply" button. pLease?
post #54 of 57
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really BW, take teh time to edit you what post just a wee bit befor hitting the "submit reply" button. pLease?
Alta skiers have better grammar and spelling skills
post #55 of 57
Yep, I only get dispatched to jobs that the client says requires a car.
post #56 of 57
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Yep, I only get dispatched to jobs that the client says requires a car.
ha ha thats seriously kicks ass. Do you get ever get strange looks from clients/recipients when you show up?
post #57 of 57
Often the client is angry. Usually he/she calms down when I explain that I have a large trailer and I only do car jobs. Sometimes I tell them we thought it might be too much for a car. Haven't gotten even a chuckle with that one, but will continue trying. Maybe it's the delivery. I have done several that were billed as HC (hatchback surcharge) and one TC (truck call). That one was about 400lb. in 8 large boxes. Pedicabs routinely take on that much weight and their rigs weigh a ton empty. Those guys kick ass!
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