Originally Posted by shirk
Current ski's I'd pick for the same mission, are Movement 187 Thunders, PM Gear Bro 188, and Legend Pro's (bit heavy for the touring side to get there). Pretty much any ski with a nice stiff flex pattern and amazing torsional rigidity.
Me too buddy. I havent read this entire thread, but I also agree with whomever mentioned Explosiv's as well.
The only time I've been in a situation where I verbally told myself "DONT FALL" was in Las Lenas, ARG a few years ago. Me and some buds were skiing the Marte Chair and we were looking to ski a run called Parrot Chute...which is basically a 40 degree-ish 1000 vert longish chute that twists and turns a bit but basically just opens up into a wide open bowl at the bottom.
However, there are many entrances to other chutes along the ridgetop where Parrot Chute was located and we ended up dropping into a chute that was adjacent to Parrot by mistake. This chute was called "Sin Salida" which translates to "Without Exit".
Here is Sin Salida from a distance:
The top was a fairly mellow 35 - 40 degree wide chute, but about 2/3rds down, there's a rollover that you can't quite see from the top, and below the rollover it steepens to about 50 degrees and leads straight down to a mandatory 40 - 50ft air. The air this particular year was unlaunchable, so you had to ski down to the top of the air, and then find a billy-goat traverse through some rocks into an adjacent chute.
We were halfway down Sin Salida when we realized we were in wrong chute. And I gave myself the "whatever you do don't fall here" talking too...heh.
I was skiing on a pair of 188 Bro Models. Part of the design criteria for this ski was actually excellence in situations such as these. When it gets steep, scratchy, and you don't want to fall...you want a ski that is fairly straight so you can get full edge contact with the snow without the ski "bowing" too much into it's natural sidecut causing the tips and tails to hang up. This also make it eaiser to skid & slide in a controlled manner if you're in a spot where you can't make a turn or get the tips around in a hop turn. Also, it has a decent amount of tip-to-tail taper (i.e. about 11mm...I would call anything greater or equal to 10mm as a 'decent amount') which lets you release the tail of the ski pretty easily. Also, it's a pretty torsionally stiff ski, so when you're standing on that uphill ski and your downhill ski is kind of hanging in space...you have some confidence that you're not on a noodly ski that's going to wash out on you. It also has a slight twintip that again, allows the tails to release easily and has the added benefit of allowing you to back up easily if you have to without the tail digging into the slope or getting stuck on any rocks that might be poking up. Although, there have been guides in Chamonix call us up and request that we make them a Bro Model with a flat tail so that they can more easily jam the ski into the snow to use it as an anchor in belay situations.
But that's what I'm comfortable on. Everyone is different. Someone might be more comfortable on a pair of GS skis because that just might be what they ski everyday. What it boils down to IMO is that despite all the criteria I listed above, the best ski for the situation is probably the one that the user is most accustomed to and comfortable on.