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Please recommend the right ski for me

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
Hello, I will try to summarize everything, but I am new here. Hopefully I don't leave anything out.

I am 6'3, ~170 lbs. I am not sure how to rate myself, but I would assume I am a 7.5. I have been skiing for 20 years (I am 25) but have not skied much in the past 6 years. I used to be able to keep up with the racers growing up. I ski on the east coast.

I just picked up a set of new Fischer RC4 GS's in 188. These will be used for all the cold, fast hard groomer days/mtns (like Killington).

Now I am looking for a second set of skis. These will be used at places like Jay Peak/Stowe/Sunday River, and if I go out west over the next 2-3 years. I want these for glades and east coast powder.

I am having trouble deciding what to buy. I have skied west coast powder before, but I have never skied east coast glades/powder. I am going to take a week long trip to Jay Peak, and most likely a 3 day weekend to Stowe.

So mostly east coast spots with glades and some powder but capable of being skied out west.

Any and all recommendation help. I would just ask you substantiate why you would choose said ski. It will help me learn.
post #2 of 19
something in the 80-95mm waist range would probably be pretty good for your application. but if you want anything more specific, you're going to have to tell us what type of ski characteristics you like. do you like lively or damp? snappy or smooth? light or heavy? soft or stiff? these are really the more important questions to answer.
post #3 of 19
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by lukc View Post
something in the 80-95mm waist range would probably be pretty good for your application. but if you want anything more specific, you're going to have to tell us what type of ski characteristics you like. do you like lively or damp? snappy or smooth? light or heavy? soft or stiff? these are really the more important questions to answer.
Gotcha.

Well, I prefer a GS ski, if that helps. I am not too familiar with the ski's I am thinking of buying, as I haven't skied much in 6 years.

For this application I would surmise: Stiff; damp; snappier than I normally would, and lighter than I normally would.

I came into this thread thinking ~82mm waist, something like a Cold Heat. However I am also thinking this might not be wide enough. Needless to say I am confused at this point.
post #4 of 19
It sounds like what you are asking for is a nice all mountain ski. So there are many skis to choose from. Here is a list of 2 skis that you may like with some brief comments. There are plenty of reviews for the following skis so I would just suggest you search.

The Head im88 If you want an AM ski that skis like a big GS stiff, damp, works best at speed, this is it (maybe also the 94?). The 88 really slays crud. But it may or may not be what you are looking for since it seems to come alive more at speed in the open, not cutting sharp corners like in moguls or tight eastern glades.

Something like the K2 Public Enemy (PE)might be a more optimal ski to be on. Less demanding and better performance at lower speeds. But still alot of ski. Fairly nimble and good in bumps, but still enough ski to lay trenches if need be. Nice all mountain twin.

And a few others that you can search up that may or may not be awesome for you. Volkl Mantra or Gotama, PM Gear Bros (stiff or soft), 4Ftnt MSP, Head Mojo 90, Salomon Foil,

You may or may not want something similar to the other skis you have already.
post #5 of 19
Thread Starter 
Well, I have done tons of searching.

I guess I am looking for people that ski what I am looking to ski, and hoping they can push me for towards a ~76mm; a ~82mm; or a ~86mm waist.

The trouble I am having is not with the reviews, but with what will be best for the skiing I am going to do.
post #6 of 19
Maybe someone else will chime in and tell you what they like. You really should just demo some skis on your trips and find out for yourself.
post #7 of 19
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Originally Posted by tromano View Post
Maybe someone else will chime in and tell you what they like. You really should just demo some skis on your trips and find out for yourself.
You are probably right, but I was hoping to buy a set beforehand.

Peaking my interests are Atomic Nomad Premiums, Fischer Cold Heats and Head iM78s.

Are these too slim for my application?
post #8 of 19
The last three that you mentioned are probably narrower than would be ideal given your applications. More importantly though, they are all stiffer than you need at 170 lbs. Skiing powder in the East is like powder slalom in many cases. If you have to balance the times that you need manuverability vs. the times that you need high speed STAbility.....manuverability gets the nod at lesat 80/20.

So...what gives you manuverability in "deep" snow and tight spots? float and flex play definitive roles. Too stiff and the ski won't bend and come around. That means that you have to horse it. That's OK if that's what ya wanna do. A ski that is often overlooked is the '08 Dynastar Legend Pro in 176 length. While the LP has a bruising rep in longer sizes, most folks don't understand that the 176 is a different critter. It is 97mm underfoot, has a geeee-essssy shape, low camber and a flex in the medium range. This is a great ski for your applications.

SJ
post #9 of 19
Thread Starter 
I will look into these. I would have thought 97mm was too wide for my application.
post #10 of 19
Here is another data point for you:

http://tetongravity.com/forums/showt...ht=stowe+video

Watch the video. The skier in there is using spats. Which are like 135 under foot. You want something maneuverable in tight trees like that.
post #11 of 19
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Originally Posted by skier2369 View Post
I will look into these. I would have thought 97mm was too wide for my application.
It might feel a little too wide if it were to be your only stick, but it's a nice complement to your G.S. skis. If you were only going to have one ski, then the 85mm (ish) range might be a good place to look. The LP makes pretty good GS turns on the firmer stuff when you pop out of the trees, so don't think of it as a powder specialty tool. There are a lot of other good choices in this width range too but the LP is a pretty good buy right now so it's a good place to start looking.

SJ
post #12 of 19
Thread Starter 
All this stuff is helping alot, thanks. Please keep it coming.

I agree about the powder slalom analogy also. I think this ski needs to be somewhat quick, but still be able to handle other riding than just the trees.

Edit: And what lengths are we talking here?
post #13 of 19
Thread Starter 
Just found some nice Head iM.88's i think I will get. Assessing everything, I don't think the primary use of these skis will be tight glades and powder. They need to serve that purpose, but an all around crud ski that can work in powder, glades and groomers is what I need.

From the reviews the iM.88's seem to be just what I am looking for.

Do you think 175's are too short?

I am 6'3", and 170 lbs.

I want to err a little on the short side with these skis so i can power them around. Also I have read these ski a little longer than they are listed.

Thanks again guys!
post #14 of 19
Really what you need is as follows:
a hard snow long radius ski - the GS will do
a hard snow short radius ski - Fischer WC SC is good

A deep snow long radius high speed ski (eg. Dynastar LP or Stockli DP PRO just examples not reccomendations; I haven't tried the new fat skis 'cause I'm stuck in Ontario)

A deep snow short radius ski /slow speed ski (don't know what to put here; see note above)

If you live in the east you may want to compromise on the deep snow skis and just get one pair. I've got a pair of old (2002) Volant Machete G as my deep snow skis, and they seem to work very well in snow (not on ice).

I notice there's a VA has a Volant T3 Power for sale in the buy and sell form, it might do if you don't want to spend too much.
post #15 of 19
Ghost, I don't think the OP is going to go from not skiing in six years to a four-ski quiver. Give him time.

OP: Jim knows from whence he speaks. I haven't tried the LP, but I suspect he's on the money. 176 seems reasonable for a 170-pounder for a ski with a 97mm waist, particularly if you're planning to ski trees.

Tromano's idea of a Spatula (125mm under foot) is a good one as well, but I think that would make a better third pair of skis, after something in the 90s.
post #16 of 19
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Originally Posted by skier2369 View Post
I am not sure how to rate myself, but I would assume I am a 7.5. I have been skiing for 20 years (I am 25) but have not skied much in the past 6 years. I used to be able to keep up with the racers growing up. I ski on the east coast.

I just picked up a set of new Fischer RC4 GS's in 188. These will be used for all the cold, fast hard groomer days/mtns (like Killington).

Now I am looking for a second set of skis. These will be used at places like Jay Peak/Stowe/Sunday River, and if I go out west over the next 2-3 years. I want these for glades and east coast powder.
If you can handle RC4 GS's in 188, I'd think about the following: Fischer Watea 94, Mantra, Volkl Bridge, Blizzard Magnum 8.7. All can work well in glades/trees, all will work well as a single ski out west, each has its own character and strengths. And plenty of posts here on each.
post #17 of 19
post #18 of 19
Thread Starter 
Uh, yeah, I picked up the GS Skis, and I'd like a ski like I describe below. I don't want 4+ skis at this point.

I respect what Jim said, and I think how I originally described my needs may have necessitated the ski he described, but I have changed my needs up a little.

If you see below, I think I refined what this ski needs to do for me.

Feel free to disagree. I am here to learn from all you guys, who have years of knowledge and experience on me.

Edit: I lost the ebay bid on the Heads, but I still like the ski.
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Originally Posted by skier2369 View Post
Just found some nice Head iM.88's i think I will get. Assessing everything, I don't think the primary use of these skis will be tight glades and powder. They need to serve that purpose, but an all around crud ski that can work in powder, glades and groomers is what I need.

From the reviews the iM.88's seem to be just what I am looking for.

Do you think 175's are too short?

I am 6'3", and 170 lbs.

I want to err a little on the short side with these skis so i can power them around. Also I have read these ski a little longer than they are listed.

Thanks again guys!
post #19 of 19

There is a lot out there!!

My suggestion is to look into some Fischer or Head skis.. It is my opinion that K2 fatty boys are a little weak in the heavy stuff unless you get into a Public Enemy or Seth Morrison model. I had a pair of the Fischer Atua and they rocked from Stowe to Whistler; I even turned them into tele skis and they still had lots of love for me. The Head iM 88 Monster is a little on the heavy side but powers through all the variable the Northeast can throw down... Plus both skis are side wall giving them that GS race ski feel when you dig in and want to lay down some ditches.... Thats my opinion though... Oh, dont get anything under a 80 waist you will need the float and the stability.
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