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post #31 of 53
I just watched the movie over the weekend, really love it, one question though, why older skier have to do jump ( hop) turn, it looks like a lot of work, while the younger skier just do few turn or no turn at all, is the difference in technique and/or equipments ?
post #32 of 53
old school vs new school.. I think its what stuck with them as they learned to ski
post #33 of 53
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I just watched the movie over the weekend, really love it, one question though, why older skier have to do jump ( hop) turn, it looks like a lot of work, while the younger skier just do few turn or no turn at all, is the difference in technique and/or equipments ?
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post #34 of 53
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Originally Posted by RBC
I just watched the movie over the weekend, really love it, one question though, why older skier have to do jump ( hop) turn, it looks like a lot of work, while the younger skier just do few turn or no turn at all, is the difference in technique and/or equipments ?
The other part of the answer to your question: There is a tremendous difference between how you ski when cameras are rolling and your search and rescue team is in the air watching you... and how you ski when you are mountaineering in locales where an injury or setback that would be laughed about over dinner at a warm lodge in AK in the first case is truly life threatening.
post #35 of 53
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The other part of the answer to your question: There is a tremendous difference between how you ski when cameras are rolling and your search and rescue team is in the air watching you... and how you ski when you are mountaineering in locales where an injury or setback that would be laughed about over dinner at a warm lodge in AK in the first case is truly life threatening.
A few other reasons for the hopping:

If you look carefully at some of the old footage in "Steep", you'll see that many of those early attempts at skiing super-steep lines were in conditions that were hardly ideal powder. Lots of windblown and sun-affected crusts, slabby snow, and inconsistent stuff. None of the nearly-perfect Alaskan powder that you'll see in the movies these days. The "old" guys probably wouldn't have skied those faces in new-snow conditions because of avalanche concerns. So in hard-snow conditions where a fall almost certainly could lead to a slide/tumble/starfish of THOUSANDS of vertical feet, they wanted to stay upright and a hop turn or pedal turn is still the very best way to do that on hard snow when there are potentially fatal consequences below.

Secondly, those guys were skiing on skis with essentially no sidecut, waist widths that were probably less than 60mm, and lengths well north of 200cm. Those skis didn't absorb terrain and junky snow nearly as well as today's fat skis. Speed control was a critically important part of skiing those faces in the early days of "extreme" skiing.

To me, that makes some of the early exploits all the more impressive (and unbelievable). That's some serious stuff those people were doing and they were doing it with equipment that none of us would use today if we had the choice.
post #36 of 53
I love the Bill Briggs stuff in there. He is one of my ski heros if for no other reason, when he was getting his hip fused (in the 60s I think) he forced the Dr. to fuse it in a skiing position and not a walking position. He has a funky limp/shuffle, but he still skis quite well.
post #37 of 53
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I love the Bill Briggs stuff in there. He is one of my ski heros if for no other reason, when he was getting his hip fused (in the 60s I think) he forced the Dr. to fuse it in a skiing position and not a walking position. He has a funky limp/shuffle, but he still skis quite well.
Having a hip replacement on each side I can especially appreciate that. Just hope they don't criticize him in the Ski Technique section for not being able to do a proper pivot slip
post #38 of 53
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Nobis is a Beast! I loved that steep movie (very good just from a solid documentary point of view-let alone the vintage ski clips) and I enjoyed this Nobis short!

FWIW-My two favorite modern steep skiers Nobis-American and Perret-Europe. Stylistically and culturally they make really cool counterparts

Hey it's snowing!
post #39 of 53
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Originally Posted by RBC View Post
I just watched the movie over the weekend, really love it, one question though, why older skier have to do jump ( hop) turn, it looks like a lot of work, while the younger skier just do few turn or no turn at all, is the difference in technique and/or equipments ?
to ski the current fashion of going with gravity, "younger" skiers have to find a suitable line. their line will have a safe run-out zone and the straight-line will have to be continuous even if inclusive of aired sections. just saying from what I see around here, not something I have taken to the extreme. there is a prevalent style today, but it only works on certain lines and in certain conditions. what you see in Steep is a method that can be employed to get you down just about anything. all if it takes some guts.
post #40 of 53

 Steep is on EWAM (channel 347 on Dish) today at 9 AM EST and 7:40 PM EST

post #41 of 53

 I finally got to watch Steep tonight, and the first thing that came to mind was WOW.

I've seen many ski movies, from cheesy to high adrenaline, but this one followed extreme skiing in a way that no other movie(I've seen) has.  

Steep makes most other ski movies look like travelog night at the rotary club.

 

For anyone who has not seen it, make it a point to find it and set the time aside to really take it in!  You'll  be happy you did.

post #42 of 53

I saw your post this morning and watched it, for the second time. What a great movie. 'nuff said.

 

Thanks Trek.

post #43 of 53

Glad I could be of service.  

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 I finally got to watch Steep tonight, and the first thing that came to mind was WOW.

I've seen many ski movies, from cheesy to high adrenaline, but this one followed extreme skiing in a way that no other movie(I've seen) has.  

Steep makes most other ski movies look like travelog night at the rotary club.

 

For anyone who has not seen it, make it a point to find it and set the time aside to really take it in!  You'll  be happy you did.

Doh! missed it. We're watching American Idol.   Must check the guide and PVR it next time it comes on to move it to DVD
 

post #45 of 53

 

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Doh! missed it. We're watching American Idol.   Must check the guide and PVR it next time it comes on to move it to DVD
 

I'm sorry, but I must have misunderstood your post.......

You missed Steep because you were watching American Idol 

post #46 of 53

Here...you can have your American Idol and watch Steep too.

but...maybe they'll film American Idol in Xanadu, NJ and you can have both!

 

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0012CJQZK/?tag=yahhyd-20&hvadid=35450614511&ref=pd_sl_30p2tnje6_b

 

$14.95

 

post #47 of 53

I have the PVR set to record Steep at 4:30 AM Eastern time Saturday morning on EWAM.  I will then make a DVD of it and watch it every day for eternity. 

 

nanny nanny boo boo :-)~

post #48 of 53

I watched it and made a disc copy of it today.  Not the typical pounding music with clips of hot moves all edited together.  Just a movie about skiing tough stuff and the people that do it (or did it and died). I'm very glad I have this now.  Thanks for the heads up!

Favorite lines:

"People are either lambs or lions.  You can choose what you are.  In Chaminix there is no shortage of lions".  There's definitely a signature tag line in there somewhere if we ever get that feature back.

post #49 of 53
 Steep alert.......on now on EWAM, started at 7 PM EST.

What better way to spend a night of recovery from the weekend than watching Steep, the ultimate ski porn!
post #50 of 53
^ Just saw this post TC, what is EWAM? & are there any re-broadcasts?
Thanks,
JF
post #51 of 53
I will eventually have a copy, and I know this though I haven't seen it. I identify with the mind that seeks out extremes. Confronting one's fear, of reaching the edge of mortality, is as as full of an experience of life as one can find. Going over the edge, and finding one's return,  is as close to God as one comes while incarnate.
post #52 of 53
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^ Just saw this post TC, what is EWAM? & are there any re-broadcasts?
Thanks,
JF
EWAM is one of the Encore channels.
Encore WAM.

It was really eerie to watch Shane McConkey base jump off these cliffs and talk about his views on it.
This is a movie about the merging of adrenaline and respect.
post #53 of 53
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EWAM is one of the Encore channels.
Encore WAM.


Thanks,
JF
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