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Atomic Pimp vs. Völkl Gotama?

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
Hi All,

I'm still searching for a versatile powder ready ski.
My last thread led to the Völkl Gotama, the Atomic Thug, maybe the Nordica Blower.
Does anyone know how the Atomic Pimp would fit?
post #2 of 18
Thread Starter 
Forgot to mention:
Me 184cm tall, weight 82kg, age 38, would classify me as an advanced skier.
post #3 of 18
I own te Gotama, and previously owned the Sugar Daddy (same as Pimp, only with more length options).

The Sugar Daddy is stiffer, and demands more muscle. Not as much float.

Gotama is easier in a wide variety of conditions (soft and hard), and floats better. It's also easier to turn.

I'd also consider K2's ObSethed. It's a partial rocker, and has received great reviews. A full rocker seems too limited to me (all or nothing). But, a slight rocker like ObSethed, could be loads of fun.
post #4 of 18
Well there are certainly lots of great skis these days, but the Gotama sort of defines the versatile powder ski.
even more versatile, but slightly less floaty in pow, would be something in the 90-95mm range, in my opinion. I still consider the Got a quiver ski, even though many do not. Great ski!
post #5 of 18
Check out the Line Prophet 100. Very versatile, a little stiffer than the Goat and just a great ski in almost all conditions. For more info search Teton Gravity forums.
post #6 of 18
PIMP =/= suger daddy. Pimp, is wood core sidewall ski, not foam beta like the SD.
post #7 of 18
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Originally Posted by tromano View Post
PIMP =/= suger daddy. Pimp, is wood core sidewall ski, not foam beta like the SD.
Are you sure?

Side by side, the skis appear identical, except the Pimp comes in longer length, with different graphics.

I've seen them close, and the Densolite composition looks exactly the same.

Ski shop guys said the same.

A wood core sidewall, like the Mantra, isn't curved on the side, like the Pimp and SD. It's vertical.
post #8 of 18
The 07 pimp might have been beta. Don't know. But in 08 they redesigned it to similar construction as the thug.

"The Atomic Pimp has been redesigned for the 2008 ski season. With slanted sidewall sandwich construction and a kinetic core, the Atomic Pimp is the ideal equipment for kickers and powder. With its new construction whatever you put into the ski you'll get out of it. The Atomic Pimp Skis have a 103mm waist and a twin tip tail to allow the ski to release in and out of turn easier or for landing switch off those 30 footers. "
post #9 of 18
if you're even remotely considering skiing a ski called "The Pimp" then you damn well better be one.
post #10 of 18
dookey, a player into making progress
post #11 of 18
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Originally Posted by tromano View Post
The 07 pimp might have been beta. Don't know. But in 08 they redesigned it to similar construction as the thug.

"The Atomic Pimp has been redesigned for the 2008 ski season. With slanted sidewall sandwich construction and a kinetic core, the Atomic Pimp is the ideal equipment for kickers and powder. With its new construction whatever you put into the ski you'll get out of it. The Atomic Pimp Skis have a 103mm waist and a twin tip tail to allow the ski to release in and out of turn easier or for landing switch off those 30 footers. "
Okay. With a redsign, I see it could be a different animal.

I've only been familiar with models through 07/08.

The slanted sidewall construction makes good sense - a la Mantra.

Atomic deserves credit for updating this venerable, but aging member of their line.
post #12 of 18
Never skied Gots or Thugs. Owned 190 VCTs and Ninthward 187s. Both have been described as very Gotama-esque. Sold them both after one run on 185 Blowers. Bought two pairs of Blowers. One in each length. I love my Blowers.

FWIW my other fav ski is the 192 777.
post #13 of 18
There are so many good skis in this range. Look into the scott p4 as well. The scott can be had for fairly cheap I got mine for 220 new on sac.
post #14 of 18
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Originally Posted by tromano View Post
PIMP =/= suger daddy. Pimp, is wood core sidewall ski, not foam beta like the SD.
Pimp and Sugar Daddy have different specs in measures and radius

you can fine them here:

Pimp: www.skidetails.com/en/skiDetail.jsp?id_model=486
Sugar Daddy: www.skidetails.com/en/skiDetail.jsp?id_model=483
post #15 of 18
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Originally Posted by RedCap View Post
Hi All,

I'm still searching for a versatile powder ready ski.
My last thread led to the Völkl Gotama, the Atomic Thug, maybe the Nordica Blower.
Does anyone know how the Atomic Pimp would fit?
for the money its the best ski out of those metioned. You can get great deals on the atomic stuff because its not as well known as the gotamas.
post #16 of 18
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
for the money its the best ski out of those metioned. You can get great deals on the atomic stuff because its not as well known as the gotamas.
That's true. In the moment I could get an Atomic Pimp around 100,00€ to 150,00€ cheaper than a Völkl Gotama (new, with bindings).
Is the Pimp a typical Atomic (racy, stiff etc.)?
Or is it similar to the Gotama?

(I know it's all about testing - what I will do, it's only to narrow the field.)
post #17 of 18
The SD remains as it has been. That is, Beta construction, pretty firm back 2/3 of the ski and stiff torsion all in a very light ski. I own the SD and the Goat and while the Goat is better for what I want this width of ski to do, I can't make myself dump my SD's. They do some things really well but they are a little more work than the Goat sometimes.

The Pimp was redesigned for '07 and is a very different ski than it used to be. It is a little softer than the Goat and has a bit less shape. I'd put the Pimp in the medium flex group like say a P-100. It's very easy and fun and I personally like it better than the Prophet. I'm happy with the Goat but for what I use it for, I'd probably be equally happy with the Pimp. For me, easy going is a good thing for weird and broken snow. I really like a straight shape because you can then have a little softer ski without a sacrifice in stability.

SJ
post #18 of 18
Thread Starter 
Ok, thanks to you all for your input!
This will be an interesting testing season.
I hope the conditions will be right for testing skis this wide.
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