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post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
I am about 5' 10.....170lbs....and i am a intermediate skier. I am looking for an all-mountain ski. I will be doing alot of on-piste right away during the season, but will be venturing off the groomers also. Any suggestions? Any more information please ask
post #2 of 17
Welcome to Epic.

What skis have you skied and liked?

Where do you ski?
post #3 of 17
Thread Starter 
I hae always rented skis in the past. So i do not know what skis i have used before. I just moved to bozeman, mt so i will be skiing big sky and bridger alot.
post #4 of 17

welcome to montana

i own a shop in Billings, Montana. I could type all day or you can call 406-256-0800. can give you my 2 cents and a great deal. TIm
post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 
will do ^...any other suggestions?
post #6 of 17
Here is a link to a basic primer on ski choices starting with terrain choice which will be your most important starting point. This is fairly lengthy so I didn't want to just copy and paste it here. After you have a better idea of the pluses, minuses, and compromises involved, you can find yourself a starting point for a ski choice. Don't get all hung up on dimensions, they are a factor in your choice but often times are not definitive.

http://www.sierrasnowboard.com/forum...p?TID=573&PN=1

SJ
post #7 of 17
Some things to consider are this. Do you plan to ski switch? Are you going to hit park?

I have a pair of head mojo 90's and love them for my everyday ski. Some people on here (east coasters) would consider this to big. But for you I think it is just right. I actually rode with a girl at a ski comp who was rocking k2 seths as her park ski and she is from Big sky. I would go with something around the same size as the mojo 90. Look for skis in that area.
post #8 of 17
ptex is a stand-up guy who knows his skis and the terrain you're going to ski. He's worth a call.
post #9 of 17
Thread Starter 
What does everyone think about Volkl Mantras or Karmas for where Ill be skiing?
post #10 of 17
Given that you are coming from rentals, I'd say keep your ski appetite a little in check as far as aggressiveness level is concerned. No need to go from rentals to one of the more aggressive skis out there.

So.....IMO, the Mantra is not a great choice for your skiing level. While it can offer great grip and stability, it takes a reasonably high edge angle to feel comfortable on groomers. Off piste, it is great in crud if you like a puncher rather than a floater but it will take some commitment to get it turning. In moguls and rough choppy conditions you might find the Mantra having a little too much of it's own agenda for where you are at the moment. The Karma would be a better choice for most conditions and more forgiving to boot.

SJ
post #11 of 17
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by SierraJim View Post
Given that you are coming from rentals, I'd say keep your ski appetite a little in check as far as aggressiveness level is concerned. No need to go from rentals to one of the more aggressive skis out there.

So.....IMO, the Mantra is not a great choice for your skiing level. While it can offer great grip and stability, it takes a reasonably high edge angle to feel comfortable on groomers. Off piste, it is great in crud if you like a puncher rather than a floater but it will take some commitment to get it turning. In moguls and rough choppy conditions you might find the Mantra having a little too much of it's own agenda for where you are at the moment. The Karma would be a better choice for most conditions and more forgiving to boot.

SJ
Thank you SierraJim, you have been really helpful. I got two more questions for you. Now i found another ski that may compare to the Karmas. The Line P90's, what do you think of them? Or is there another ski out there that would compare to the Karmas or P90's?
post #12 of 17
There is a herd of all mountain (twin and non twin) skis that would serve you well. In fact, the Karma was never a favorite of mine. I think the new Bridge, which replaced the Karma in '07-'08 is a better AM ski than the Karma. The P-90, Salomon Lord, and Atomic Snoop are very good choices among the twins as well.

Among non twins, there are many good ones too. The Fischer Watea 84, Sollie Fury, Atomic Crimson, Nordica Afterburner, are four that come to mind. There are others in both categories but I'm not mentioning the stiffest or most agressive.

In general the skis mentioned in the twin group will have a little more bias toward softer snow and manuverability in the off trail. The non twins will perform a touch better on the groomers with a stronger turn finish and usually better grip.

SJ
post #13 of 17
Agree about the Karma; OK but not great. Weird flex pattern that nearly turned me off to twins until I tried others, found it was not generic.

I'd think about skis in the mid 80's to low 90's that are reasonably forgiving, can handle most conditions with some elan, will grow with you. I would not recommend a dedicated powder ski; that should be your second ski after you've skied the region, taken some lessons. We've had lots of threads about this, so you can pick a ski and search for comments. Some fairly safe bets from last year, therefore cheaper now new:

Fischer Watea 84
Blizzard Cronus
Head Mojo 90
Solomon Fury
Nordica Afterburner
Atomic Snoop Daddy
Volkl Bridge

Good luck!
post #14 of 17
Can we leave out PEs from this list? And they're cheap.
post #15 of 17
I skied the Line P90s last year and really liked them. They really railed turns on hardpack. If you don't want a twin the Salomon Fury is a great choice. It really does everything well except really deep snow, but even then it does what you would expect for an 85mm waist. I found them to be easier to turn than the P90.
post #16 of 17
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Originally Posted by stevesmith7 View Post
Can we leave out PEs from this list? And they're cheap.
I just felt bad about saying PE because I throw it into almost every recommendation. It is the ski that I have skied as my go to ski for the last 3 years. I have an unmounted pair that is waiting to replace my current setup. I would put them up against any other "all mountain" ski that I have skied. The last pair I bought was off SAC for $150 shipped!
post #17 of 17
I have a pair of "hand me down" PEs from my son. He got a new pair last year. I also ski the Afterburner. I feel like I need to sell one or the other and I'm having a hard time deciding which one to let go. For a true intermediate I think the PE is the choice.
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