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post #31 of 35
At three you may need the harness, you may not. If your child is strong enough to wedge, then you may not need to use it. Otherwise, you probably will. Untill they get enough leg strength, all they can do is straightline, so you need the harness to control them. Also, the Lucky Bums harness comes with a handle that is really handy for lifting kids onto the lift. That in itself may make the harness a worthwhile purchase.

We started both of our kids as soon as they could walk. My daughter wasted a season on plastic skis (stupid parents) so she and my son are pretty close in ability. My son was able to get off the harness just before his third birthday (with nearly two seasons under his belt). My daughter was about 3 1/2.

Neither used the edgie-wedgie. I would probably hold off buying one until you are sure it will be needed. IMO if they need an Edgie-Wedgie, they probably aren't really strong enough for wedge turns yet.

As BK says, don't push. Let your kid set the pace & end the day when it stops being fun. Some days that might mean you take one run, and then go have hot chocolate, so be ready for that. Hopefully you'll have the same experience we had and your kid will love it. All I'll I've been hearing all summer long is "When is the snow coming back Daddy? We want to ski!"
post #32 of 35
Ah, yes. The Kiddie Lift.

No parent should be without one. Saves all kinds of problems getting a young child on and off the lift. It also gives you a handle to hold on to when they are sitting on the lift as you ride. I'm always afraid a fidgety kid might slip under the retaining bar.
post #33 of 35

Teaching (playing with) Kids

Originally Posted by T-Square View Post
I've done a bit of kids teaching.
Here's the Ski Instructor's mantra; Safety, Fun, and Learning. Keep the kid safe, make if fun, and learning will happen. (Kinda obvious I know, but it helps to reinforce the basics.)

I recommend using an Edgie Wedgie over some of the other tip retaining devices out there.

These help hold the ski tips together so the kid can easily make a wedge. However, they allow independent movement of the skis so the feet and hips don't get "locked up." They can also pop off if anything happens. Some other types of devices don't allow the independent leg action and that can hinder movement and learning.

I don't recommend the use of tethers, especially the ones that go around the waist. Those pull the kid back into a backseat position. If you must use tethers, connect them to the tips of the kid's skis with them routed around the outside of his legs. This way you control the skis and not the skier. I've easily controlled 6'2" 280# disabled skiers this way. Again, I don't recommend it because you are doing the skiing for the kid, he isn't learning to ski. He's just going for the ride. (They are nice to have in your back pocket on the slopes just in case. Especially with a small kid.)

What I highly recommend you do is go out on the flats and play. Your front yard is great for this stage. (With snow of course. ) Start out in just boots. Run, skip, jump, throw snowballs, hop, side step, play hide and seek, just make it fun for the kid and yourself. Then do it all over again with one ski on. Throw in some scootering and sliding on one ski. Then switch feet and do it with the ski on the other foot.

Then put on both skis and do it some more. When he gets tired, take a break. You want him to learn on his schedule to make it fun. You can even get a rope and pull him around like a water skier so he gets use to sliding. (If you attach it to the tips of the skis, he'll learn to stand up while sliding. You can use some tiny C-clamps to tie the rope to.) Finally start sliding down very very gentle slopes. Just enough for him to get moving. There should be a run out so he'll coast to a stop. While sliding just have him look where he wants to go and see what happens. Run back up to the top of the "hill" and do it over and over and over and over.

That's about it for starting. Have fun, take it slow, and let learning just happen.
Originally Posted by michaelA View Post
For the very young, I too favor XC Skiing first. Specifically, touring skis. (not Telemark)

This way you can essentially "go for a hike" but with skis on. Skinny Skis are very light weight and XC shoes/boots are very comfortable and forgiving. These skis are easy to operate and readily teach Fore/Aft Balance since the heels are free.

You also get to start out with Parallel since that's the typical way to travel forward on Flatlands (no need to look for slopes). The child gets very comfortable sliding around and operating those long sticks on their feet. When ready for a mild slope you can teach Parallel turns to a stop quite easily.

The nice thing with XC Touring Skis is that you're just "going for a hike on skis" with the kids and can avoid any real Ski Instruction efforts. The focus will be on propulsion, turning and Balance rather than on slowing or stopping if you avoid slopes for a while. This kind of ski gear is also inexpensive.

Originally Posted by I:)Skiing View Post
As my son was learning (and still is) at 2.5 YO, I held my poles pointy side to me about 2 feet in front of him....his hand position was reaching to the poles. If I felt he needed them, I slowed down so he could grab them...or moved them for faster recovery.....After a while he would tell me....I dont need those poles...or "I can reach for your poles if I need to"

I think the idea for him was there was a saftey net, he was flying alone, but had assurances I would be there if needed.

Even younger..I would ski backwards in front of him, my hands reaching for him and his mine. If he was going to fall or had that look in his face...I simply would catch him...the best part here was he had to MOVE FORWARD to come to me...rather than backward. As he moved forward...he would recover and I would sometimes not be needed.
to you all...I'm with you!

I teach privates full-time, many being kids and I have my PSIA-W Children's Specialty II Accreditation. I keep a couple of "Wiggle Worms" aka, Edgie Wedgies in my pocket...kids get to choose color. I only use the devise when my student has "noodle legs" and has a hard time keeping their skis tracking in the same direction. I very often use one pole as ISkiing, sometimes barely holding on. I then pretend to drop it, and the child skis away without me...I get hysterical laughs every time! Its nice to have that safety net, just make sure the child doesn't depend or lean too heavily on it.

Play lots of race car or train track games...follow me. Ski backwards making a track/road with your poles. Sing songs, play games, later, have them ski backwards "switch" and 360s (they all love to show their parents their new tricks), go on secret adventures, play hide & seek in the trees...and so on and so on.

Hope this helps.
post #34 of 35
Kiddie Lift....Fully agree. Especially getting around or on lifts. Some kids I teach.....have become so used to the lift...they simply roll over, bend their head down and wait...for someone to pick them up. Good or bad...its cool to watch.
post #35 of 35

Kiddie Lift

Originally Posted by I:)Skiing View Post
Kiddie Lift....Fully agree. Especially getting around or on lifts. Some kids I teach.....have become so used to the lift...they simply roll over, bend their head down and wait...for someone to pick them up. Good or bad...its cool to watch.
Since I don't use the tether...I lift kids with my pole. To get on a lift, side by side, I'll put my arms around them, holding the pole under their arms. I'll have the child tell me when the chair is coming so that we both know when to jump on. A young child can be easily be carried around this way...makes getting off the chair a cinch. I like using my pole to pull kids up a ramp or small hill as well, pointy side towards me of course!. Anyways it's easier for them to hang onto the strap...mush, mush!
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