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any quick thoughts for outwest ski

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I'm an east-coaster looking to pick up something wider/bigger for trips outwest, & that would work for powder/soft snow days here (if we get them). I'm 5'9'' ~175lbs ski mostly black's outwest, maybe doubles if the trees aren't too tight and there's not cliffs. I want something more verstaile than my atomic m11B5s (im looking to replace anyway) and found good deals for Fischer Watea 94 or Nordica Enforcers. I've never bought a ski w/out demoing it, but all the reviews on them sound like a can't miss with either. Or would a watea 84 be better? or is the '09 enforcer a better option since they cut off the twin-tip tail? I'm open to suggestions
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94

I just bought the 84 for my narrow freeride ski here in CO, but would probably get the 94 if I was in your position. I haven't skied either, but many say the 94 holds a nice edge on groomers and is a great everyday ski out West. The only reason I got the 84s is that I already have a 108 mm P4 for deep days and thought the narrower waist might be better in the moguls.

I don't remember the last time I skied nordica, but really liked the feel of my Fisher Atuas last season in the alps.
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Thanks for the thoughts ME, I pulled the trigger on the Enforcers. I figured I shouldn't pass on them for $375, & can always sell them if I find something that's a better fit. I'm thinking about making the move to Colorado for this season, so I'd like an everyday all-mtn for CO conditions. Are these wider skis nimble enough for the ungroomed bumped up trails and tree skiing? Or should I consider something in the 84-88mm range? Does anyone have any reviews/ info on the '08-09 Atomic Snoop Daddy? I read plenty of mixed reviews on the previous model, but this year's ski is a brand new model that has gotten some nice hype
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Originally Posted by zzz1021 View Post
Thanks for the thoughts ME, I pulled the trigger on the Enforcers. I figured I shouldn't pass on them for $375, & can always sell them if I find something that's a better fit. I'm thinking about making the move to Colorado for this season, so I'd like an everyday all-mtn for CO conditions. Are these wider skis nimble enough for the ungroomed bumped up trails and tree skiing? Or should I consider something in the 84-88mm range? Does anyone have any reviews/ info on the '08-09 Atomic Snoop Daddy? I read plenty of mixed reviews on the previous model, but this year's ski is a brand new model that has gotten some nice hype
Wider is no problem in the trees (but length, turn radius and stiffness can be an issue depending on the model).

I was on 186 cm Fischer Atuas (96 mm waist, twin tip) in the French Alps last year and they were very good in any soft snow conditions including soft and powder covered bumps. I didn't ski a lot of hard moguls with them, but think a narrower ski would be a tad quicker edge to edge. Good in trees also.

Try the search function for more info...
post #5 of 10
Never skied enforcers, but got the impression from the reviews I read (on epic) that the enforcer is more of a stiff damp crud ski. That kind of ski is usually more of a chore in the bumps and trees than other similar models. $375 is cheap, but you might want to Do a search before you mount them.
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Never skied enforcers, but got the impression from the reviews I read (on epic) that the enforcer is more of a stiff damp crud ski. That kind of ski is usually more of a chore in the bumps and trees than other similar models. $375 is cheap, but you might want to Do a search before you mount them.
Yeah and the Watea was light, nimble and a very fun ski.
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Yeah and the Watea was light, nimble and a very fun ski.
I found them extremely slow in Tahoe glop, err, fresh powder.

The wetter the snow, the stiffer the ski, eh?
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I found them extremely slow in Tahoe glop, err, fresh powder.

The wetter the snow, the stiffer the ski, eh?
I skied them in Steamboat, a much lighter snow for sure. had a blast on them.
post #9 of 10
Before quiver sickness, I used Mantras for my trips out west. Nice combo of smoothness in crud, acceptable groomer, nice in pow up to mid calf, wonderful in trees. And amazingly light (unappreciated factoid about most volkls). That said, the Watea 94 is supposed to be excellent, I'd guess better on groomers and bumps, draw in trees, not as sturdy in crud, I've heard mixed reviews in pow. Might also think about Blizzard Cronos which I know or suspect are better than either of the above on hardpack, in bumps and trees, almost as good in crud, not as much float for pow. And then the last trip I made out west I spent most of my time on Goats, which also work well on all surfaces except ice, and are surprisingly quick through trees and in bumps. Pow, no contest.

So it really gets down to what kind of stuff you like to aim for when you're out west...
post #10 of 10
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the feedback guys.  This is obviously a late response, as I unfortunately did not make a trip outwest last season.  I finally got my Enforcers mounted and have been using them around Salt Lake City for the past week.  They are a much different ski than my Atomic MllB5's I use back on the East Coast, which I knew they would be.  I've been happy with them so far. Utah seems to be going through a bit of a drought, and the enforcers have had no problem plowing through all the junk and crud, while keeping plenty of grip of the icy spots. No complaints w/ high-speed stability, & they've been manageable in bumps (I don't ski bumps much & am still improving on them).  Can't really comment on powder- I've had some trouble in it, as I'm still getting a feel for how to ski pow, and everything I've encountered has been heavy & left over from the last storm (close to 2 weeks ago)
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