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post #31 of 50

Here is my take!

I own a little shop in montana that sells skis all over the country. I have been bleeding Volkl blood for 10 years. I thought nothing could come along and be a better product. When k2 corp. bought volkl I got a little nervous but the product continued to kickass. 2 years ago I got the call from A volkl/tecnica employee( Im sure it is the same guy mentioned as the michigan blizzard rep) who is a great friend. He told me he was leaving to Blizzard. I was like what @#$$#^. He explained Tecnica bought blizzard. the original 4 reps Blizzard brought from Tecnica/volkl were definitely the young guns to get this brand going. It became very apparent that Tecnica and its relationship with volkl would soon be ending. I jumped on board with Blizzard last year . Last years skis were good this years skis are great. But why wouldnt they be, 3 of the 5 engineers from volkl went to Blizzard, 1 is at Nordica and one retired( I think he still helps at Volkl). SOme of Volkls best sales reps have now left to Blizzard, soon they will be on the shelves in colorado, and the rest of the country. If you cant find blizzard skis, i can hook you up. In fact I ordered a lot of Blizzi's assuming people wont be able to find them and will be calling. If anyone has any specific questions ask me. I have the product managers phone on speed dial. If there is something you would like to see write it here, they are small enough to listen. I would even tell your local shop to get on board with the product. I believe they are the next Volkl and what shop wouldnt want to have that in the future. I guess I am pretty fired up about the skis future. I dont work for Blizzard and im not trying to drum up business. Do yourself a favor and get on a pair. I am now bleeding blizzard blood. ( I still ski my mantra, at least until January when I hope to be on a similiar wasted ski from blizzard, the future looks bright)
post #32 of 50

weight of skier

I am a big guy 240ish. I really liked the the ac 50, I liked the grizzly even better, the head Im 88 has been a favorite for a long time. than I got on the magnum 8.7 and have never looked back. If this ski said k2 or volkl it would be every ski magazines ski of the year( maybe it will anyway)
post #33 of 50
Well, maybe, but one of the mags said it needed to be on edge all the time and was all about bumps and trees, while the other said it was not for short turns, needed petal to the metal speed to wake up. Neither gave it anything like the marks for the Grizzly or AC50.

All of which translates for me as: probably more versatile than either.

Speaking of who has the better German engineers, curious if the feel/flex of the 8.7/8.1 tends to be Volkl-like, eg. AC40. I've skied the Cronos, love it, but it's all wood/carbon and to me feels more comparable to similar constructions from Fischer or Head than to a Volkl.
post #34 of 50
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Well, maybe, but one of the mags said it needed to be on edge all the time and was all about bumps and trees, while the other said it was not for short turns, needed petal to the metal speed to wake up. Neither gave it anything like the marks for the Grizzly or AC50.

All of which translates for me as: probably more versatile than either.

Speaking of who has the better German engineers, curious if the feel/flex of the 8.7/8.1 tends to be Volkl-like, eg. AC40. I've skied the Cronos, love it, but it's all wood/carbon and to me feels more comparable to similar constructions from Fischer or Head than to a Volkl.
Valid point.

But, most of those testing dudes are beefy ex-racers who could bend a steel girder.

I'm not sure their likes reliably translate into something I'd want.
post #35 of 50
I think blizzard is the only company to offer a fun shape with a hostage plate. They are so hot right now.
post #36 of 50
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I think blizzard is the only company to offer a fun shape with a hostage plate. They are so hot right now.
Tromono, do you know that this season all of Blizzard's freeride series will be available either with the IQ integrated binding system, or flat. It's your choice.

My Argos from last season have the IQ Dukes, and even though I could go flat, I was so impressed with the IQ system, I'd get it again.

P-tex- this is a perfect example of what you were talking about..... Blizzard is still small enough to listen to what the consumer wants.
post #37 of 50
Blank Plates are HUGE- We have 2 high profile JR racers who have vowed not to use the Marker binding. While Blizzard and Marker are related companies, to date the reps have not enforced a required marriage. Thus they are ripping on Blizzard with other binders. Kudos to Blizzard for having the foresight to technically permit this and the commercial balls to allow it.
post #38 of 50

hostage plate

i have been a fan of system skis and believe they ski better. the figures show that systems are the fastest growing part of the market. that being said if you dont like marker that might turn you off blizzard. blizzard was going offer the argos and cronus flat. they wll only be offering the cronus flat because of lack of orders for the flat argos. i wish they would have brought a flat argos, I think some of the Tgr boys would have started skiing this ski and the brand would have exploded among those who arent marker fans. However look at some of the advantages. you can come into my store buy an 8.7 with binding . Come back later and I can sell you The Answer, if you dont want another binding I sell it without. you decide you want to tele, you buy the tele plate. no need for another ski just swap the plate with the bindings. I think you will even see in the future a plate that will take any binding. you will have the advantage of a system with the binding you want. you could literally own 5 blizzard skis and 1 binding
post #39 of 50
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Originally Posted by ptex1 View Post
i have been a fan of system skis and believe they ski better. the figures show that systems are the fastest growing part of the market. that being said if you dont like marker that might turn you off blizzard. blizzard was going offer the argos and cronus flat. they wll only be offering the cronus flat because of lack of orders for the flat argos. i wish they would have brought a flat argos, I think some of the Tgr boys would have started skiing this ski and the brand would have exploded among those who arent marker fans. However look at some of the advantages. you can come into my store buy an 8.7 with binding . Come back later and I can sell you The Answer, if you dont want another binding I sell it without. you decide you want to tele, you buy the tele plate. no need for another ski just swap the plate with the bindings. I think you will even see in the future a plate that will take any binding. you will have the advantage of a system with the binding you want. you could literally own 5 blizzard skis and 1 binding
...or 5 pair of bindings and one pair of skis

Will Blizzard sell an IQ ski w/o a binding?

This is one of the reason I like Vist Speedlocks, but because of that system, it is more of a "frontside" system where the IQ transends ski lines.
post #40 of 50
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Blizzard was going offer the argos and cronus flat. they wll only be offering the cronus flat because of lack of orders for the flat argos.
Ah... I didn't know that... my mistake.
post #41 of 50
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Originally Posted by U.P. Racer View Post
Tromono, do you know that this season all of Blizzard's freeride series will be available either with the IQ integrated binding system, or flat. It's your choice.
Didn't know that. I am not for or against system skis. Many people seem to really like the duke.

But the decisions to put a plate on their big freeride skis seems to really go against the grain of what every other ski maker is doing. And to me, the 1 binding on 4 skis thing is nice in theory, in practice, I am never than coordinated, and neither I suspect are most people.
post #42 of 50
I wouldn't exactly call Blizzard's system a "plate".... The bindings are made to be literally incorporated into the construction of the ski.

Check out some pictures and descriptions HERE
post #43 of 50
Not exactly a free plate. I saw a tech put a binding on; ski had two large predrilled screw holes one behind the other (freeride vs groomed apparently), binding was adjusted to boot length on plastic plate and then whole binding/plate slid into "lips" on each side that rise up out of ski, tech chose hole to align, zwip one big screw and you're set.

But far as I could tell (may be wrong here), not like a RF. To remove the binding looked like you have to remove the plate too. Which means taking out that one big screw. Easy to do once or twice if you decide to change boot length or desired screw. Or switching from a trad to a Duke. Maybe not designed for constant back and forthing since on this ski it wasn't a metal hole, but fat screw cemented into wood.

Am I misunderstanding this?
post #44 of 50
[quote=beyond;952228]Not exactly a free plate. I saw a tech put a binding on; ski had two large predrilled screw holes one behind the other (freeride vs groomed apparently), binding was adjusted to boot length on plastic plate and then whole binding/plate slid into "lips" on each side that rise up out of ski, tech chose hole to align, zwip one big screw and you're set.

But far as I could tell (may be wrong here), not like a RF. To remove the binding looked like you have to remove the plate too. Which means taking out that one big screw. Easy to do once or twice if you decide to change boot length or desired screw. Or switching from a trad to a Duke. Maybe not designed for constant back and forthing since on this ski it wasn't a metal hole, but fat screw cemented into wood.

Yo Beyond,

That's correct...

Like Tim (ptex) said, you could have 5 or more (for the gargantuan quiver folks) Blizzard IQ skis with one binding which is easier to replace than a Railflex, just 1 large center screw and washer...
Then you could have 20 different BSLs adjusted to your 1 binding....easier to travel with too....

I would not want to replace the large center screw more than 50 times, because it might get sloppy after the 49th replacement..
It goes into wood, but in most Blizzis 2 layers of magnesium/titanium as well, (real skis have metal , the Cronus is semi-real )

FWIW this binding setup has no play whatsoever, and you can feel the instantaneous response relative to a railflex or volkl-nordica marker hostage setup....way cool!

And blizzards are not made in China, hence better quality control in my opinion...

Bada-bing-bada-bliz.....

nfp


Down the way where the knights are gay, etc.......
post #45 of 50

correct myself

In my above post I was wrong when I said 4 of the 5 volkl engineers left. They were not engineers but product managers and 1 of them left sometime ago( not an instant move to Blizzard). For fairness both Volkl and Blizzard wanted me to correct this mistake. I dont want to create any conflict between my best selling ski and a ski I think will be the future. Hope this clarifies things
post #46 of 50
Blizzard skis are the sh*t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! there is a great review of the Blizzard backcountry ski the "Big Akira" on the link below
post #47 of 50
I do like the clean design of that built in "plate" but it seems to restricts your binding choices doesn't it?
post #48 of 50
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I do like the clean design of that built in "plate" but it seems to restricts your binding choices doesn't it?
That's kind of the point of ski companies making integrated systems, isn't it?
post #49 of 50
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That's kind of the point of ski companies making integrated systems, isn't it?
Well yes, but say in the case of most Heads that are designed for use with their RF system, but one can easily just pop off the rail and insert the binding system of choice.....though I dont know why anyone would want to do such a thing. However, I think that the newest version of the RF skis, are less user friendly, in that they have a groove made specifically for the newest RF plate.(I saw this in at least one pair of skis)
post #50 of 50
Most companies definitely own the Binding that is on there system. Volkl/k2 marker, Head/tyrolia, atomic/ atomic , etc. so I dont think there is a financial incentive to have markers on the Blizzard system. I think Blizzard has a great relationship with marker and believes marker is the best binding . Even though Nordica and Blizzard are both owned by Tecnica, Nordica switched its binding from Marker . ( I dont know if they will be glad about that decision). I know Blizzards believe that sytems ski best and I believe, in the future, they will have a plate that will except any binding but still give you the advantage of a system. Personally Ill stick with the system as designed, but this will allow those who want a salomon, look or just buy a cheap closeout binding to have hat option. I think that is the future. for know just go rip on the markers and know if you dont want to buy another binding you can still keep buying the skis.
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