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Looking to add some Head Monsters to the Quiver..yah?. Nah?

post #1 of 21
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I have Coomba's for the pow and K2 Fuji's for dorking around. I am looking for a groomer 60% hard carving some bumps. 40% GS turn type of ski. I have years of skiing experience 30+ and will go down anything...once!. Any thought on these Monsters for being an aggressive, quick response ski?
Thanks!
post #2 of 21
They are a perfectly fun ski. You should enjoy them a lot!
post #3 of 21
The Monsters are great skis...I'm just wondering which Monsters you are looking at: 75, 77/77Chip (Older Models), 78/Chip, 82, 88?
post #4 of 21
I think I saw somewhere that he was looking at 77's. But I could be mistaken.
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I think I saw somewhere that he was looking at 77's. But I could be mistaken.
Where?
post #6 of 21
Yes most Heads are great, assume iM78's are what you mean. Great in bumps, crud, all turn shapes. But not exactly a GS-level ice skate.

You may need to decide something: A ski that excels in high speed medium-long radius carves will not be wonderful in bumps. If you're an aggressive skier, I'd bet the chip version of the 78 will give you more bang at speed, better grip on ice, at a loss of a bit of friendliness in bumps.

But if this is purely a frontside ski, why not go for a real carver, like the Magnum or the SS Chip? They'll give you a whole new take on pulling G's, are smooth and damp, again entail a bit of a loss in bump performance. Narrow carvers make small mountains seem gigantic.
post #7 of 21
they are VERY damp skis as long as you don't mind that. I may be looking for a pair of 82's though...... that's a fun ski.
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Where?
I looked and can't find it. Musta been someone else.
post #9 of 21
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The Monsters are great skis...I'm just wondering which Monsters you are looking at: 75, 77/77Chip (Older Models), 78/Chip, 82, 88?
I am looking at the 78s. Something for the groomed runs or hard pack. a little cred here and there. something not very forgiving which should = quite a respnsive ski,
. I read the blurp Head has for the Chip. goes on about sport ute cars but never really says what skiing style the chip is made for.
post #10 of 21
The 78 chip is new this year so there is little experience with it yet. I imagine that it will be smoother, damper and a bit more stable than the plain 78. Some people enjoy this, other feel that it makes the skis feel "Dead". Do you prefer a damp, smooth ride or do you prefer a higher level of "snow feel" and a bit more snap?
post #11 of 21
Tramdock had 82s for $260 yesterday. Almost grabbed a pair, but I didn't feel like sleeping in the garage for the winter.
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Tramdock had 82s for $260 yesterday. Almost grabbed a pair, but I didn't feel like sleeping in the garage for the winter.

Jeez- yesterday? that's useful...
post #13 of 21
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The 78 chip is new this year so there is little experience with it yet. I imagine that it will be smoother, damper and a bit more stable than the plain 78. Some people enjoy this, other feel that it makes the skis feel "Dead". Do you prefer a damp, smooth ride or do you prefer a higher level of "snow feel" and a bit more snap?
I would have to say snap. I like a ski with a little fight. I used to ski Dynamic VR 17s. prob best aggresive ski i have owned. loved them!. I read ski canada 2009 reviews and they recommended Supershapes...
post #14 of 21
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I would have to say snap. I like a ski with a little fight. I used to ski Dynamic VR 17s. prob best aggresive ski i have owned. loved them!. I read ski canada 2009 reviews and they recommended Supershapes...
Clearly you need to demo, but if this is the case, then I would think you would want to stay away from the Chip Versions.
post #15 of 21
If you like "snap" and "fight" from your skis, stay away from the Chip versions. They tend to be pretty seriously damp. Makes them great if you want to cruise and plow through crud, but if you like some energy and rebound, the non-chip versions are a better choice IMO.
post #16 of 21
Canuck, I have a pair of Chip skis and since when I ski I am usually hauling ass, and in less than perfect snow whatever "active suspension" is available is welcome. Would you say that the Chip skis are like having active suspension in a car?
post #17 of 21
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Monsters for being an aggressive, quick response ski?
That's not what Monsters do. You want a version of the SuperShape, maybe the SuperShape Speed. The original SuperShape meets the requirement, but does both slalom and GS turns...just tip less up on edge for the GS...it's smooth and stable for both.
post #18 of 21
I would say, based on all the reviews that I have read, if he plans on doing bumps as well as carving with these skis, then the original Supershapes, not the Speed, would be the way to go. If just carving and hauling ass is the plan then by all means the Speeds.
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Jeez- yesterday? that's useful...
Stuff usually pops up again, so if you pay attention there may be another opportunity.
post #20 of 21
Hmm okay, I didn't fully read the OP first time around. If we're talking solely a groomer ski, I'd definitely look at one of the Supershape models, but rather than the original or Speed model, take a serious look at the Magnum. I'd say its the perfect ski for your description. Handles nicely in the bumps, and it's got a ton of energy for shorter radius, but with a slightly longer turn radius than the standard Supershape, so it's not a problem to do longer GS turns. For what you describe, it's probably the winner.
post #21 of 21
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Hmm okay, I didn't fully read the OP first time around. If we're talking solely a groomer ski, I'd definitely look at one of the Supershape models, but rather than the original or Speed model, take a serious look at the Magnum. I'd say its the perfect ski for your description. Handles nicely in the bumps, and it's got a ton of energy for shorter radius, but with a slightly longer turn radius than the standard Supershape, so it's not a problem to do longer GS turns. For what you describe, it's probably the winner.
Thanks for the input. I do believe after all I have heard and read the Supershapes prob the MAGNUM is what i will get These are for groomer days only. Hope to spend most of the season on the K2 Coomba's in 5 feet of pow but need a groomer for the quiver!
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