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Industry Rumor: Tecnica Group to acquire Vist

post #1 of 19
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I've heard they're interested in buying Vist, to give themselves a binding brand. They also apparently want to distribute Dolomite with Blizzard as long as the Volkl/Tecnica/Marker alliance keeps working, but the feeling is they'll eventually need a binding of their own.
post #2 of 19
That is interesting. That would mean they would have to completely redesign their IQ ski/binding interface.

Wasn't Dolomite with Blizzard years ago? Or Was that Elan? Rough night, the memory is a bit fuzzy this AM)
post #3 of 19
Dolomite / Elan, yes. IIRC correctly, Dolomite is now part of the Tecnica Group (at least that's what I was inferring) like Nordica.
Given that the first Nordica bindings were in fact Vist (IIRC) it doesn't surprise me.
May be that Tecnica is positioning itself so to be ready to part ways with K2/Voelkl/Marker ?
post #4 of 19
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I think Dolomite was with Elan, which also has some kind of agreement with Tecnica Group. The group owns (I think) outright: Nordica, Tecnica, Dolomite and Blizzard. I figured the natural pairing would be Tecnica/Blizzard, but I guess they're happy with Volkl for now, even though it's owned by a competitor. Vist bindings, if I'm not mistaken, are the successor to the original Nordica design, which the company abandoned back in the Benetton SportSystem days as too much trouble. So they're coming back around to it (today's Vists strike me as being much more beefy than original Nordica bindings, though). Also, my source tells me that Elan is now the number two ski maker in the world in volume terms, mostly due to producing huge numbers of low/medium-margin skis for other brands. Who knew?
post #5 of 19
Vist does offer skis, but they do not build them. Their skis (as good as they are) are used to showcase the bindings. So dropping them, would not be a huge issue, at least not for them, maybe for the producer, but I think they can can find someone to fill Vists production spot.

Vist is very proud to be Italian, you can tell by the quality of their product line and their clothing too. This will be interesting to watch.
post #6 of 19
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They are also the official binding partner of the Valchiavenna's own Blossom skis. Who may make Vist skis as well, I don't know (they certainly hawk a lot of Vist gear at their outlet in Chiavenna).
post #7 of 19

No Markers on 2009 Hotrods and Spitfires

Technica bringing a binding company in-house makes sense now that the 2009 Hotrods and Spitfires are using a "nordica" toepiece.

I thought that Blizzard was also using a hybrid binding - toepiece by marker, heelpiece by Vist 9?)
post #8 of 19
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I thought that Blizzard was also using a hybrid binding - toepiece by marker, heelpiece by Vist 9?)
Blizzard's bindings changed this year, they are now a traditional Marker toe and a Jester style heel, last year it was still all Marker but the toe was technology from GEZE built by Marker with a traditional Marker heel.

Dolomite, at present, isn't being distributed in the US.

Tecnica is partnered with Blizzard, most reps have chosen either to stay with Volkl (and rep Volkl/ Marker) or stay with Tecnica (and rep Blizzard/ Tecnica). The Tecnica/ Volkl days are over, they are seperate companies now.
post #9 of 19
As I understand it, Blizzard's heels are either a modified Marker Duke/Jester or a classic Marker. I've skied Blizzards with the latter, and if not, they're sure a careful copy...
post #10 of 19
Hey guys, I'm the UK Vist Distributor. Although you never really know what goes on at board level, I have been told by Vist in Italy that the romours are 100% untrue.
post #11 of 19
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Hey guys, I'm the UK Vist Distributor. Although you never really know what goes on at board level, I have been told by Vist in Italy that the romours are 100% untrue.
Which adds validity to it
post #12 of 19
Well here in the USA VIST at the moment is without anyone- The last 2 sales agents Kevin Calabrese and Toby Kerr quit and the office in Vail/Minturn at MT Imports is no longer involved. They do have a guy in Vermont but I am unsure as to his official status. Most of their USA invetory is being blown out by an outfit in Limon Colorado on ebay called Denver Wholesale Skis.

I am concerened about receiving our order this year as I have been given no delivery dates.

In Europe they have lost most all their larger OEM binding contracts such as Stockli and in the USA 4front.

From what I hear they are having serious financial problems in Italy as a result.
post #13 of 19
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Well here in the USA VIST at the moment is without anyone- The last 2 sales agents Kevin Calabrese and Toby Kerr quit and the office in Vail/Minturn at MT Imports is no longer involved. They do have a guy in Vermont but I am unsure as to his official status. Most of their USA invetory is being blown out by an outfit in Limon Colorado on ebay called Denver Wholesale Skis.

I am concerened about receiving our order this year as I have been given no delivery dates.

In Europe they have lost most all their larger OEM binding contracts such as Stockli and in the USA 4front.

From what I hear they are having serious financial problems in Italy as a result.
Toby was talking about leaving when we saw him in Vegas. Hart was putting an order together and did talk to him a few weeks ago, at that point he was still involved.

This is really a shame, the product is damn nice, I hate to see them not survive.
post #14 of 19
Toby is staying till the end of this month- but he did give notice some time ago. Problem is that VIST pricing is out of line- same skis from the blossom factory by other companies are much less expensive and their bindings are in many cases 2x others for OEM/Demo. The clothing is priced like Kjus or Halti but not to the same standard. I think they are overreaching their capabilities and resources and trying to play in a market that is far more sophisticated. I think uless they are bought out they will not survive.
post #15 of 19
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Toby is staying till the end of this month- but he did give notice some time ago. Problem is that VIST pricing is out of line- same skis from the blossom factory by other companies are much less expensive and their bindings are in many cases 2x others for OEM/Demo. The clothing is priced like Kjus or Halti but not to the same standard. I think they are overreaching their capabilities and resources and trying to play in a market that is far more sophisticated. I think uless they are bought out they will not survive.
I agree with everything you said. With the Euro/Dollar it is getting more and more difficult for ANYONE to market a Blossom ski and to be profitable.
post #16 of 19
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The Tecnica/ Volkl days are over, they are seperate companies now.
I think the agreement is still functioning in Europe, though.

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it is getting more and more difficult for ANYONE to market a Blossom ski and to be profitable.
Do hope Blossom survives. They are the local ski manufacturer for me. Have to keep an eye on prices at their outlet in Chiavenna again this season (though I don't need more skis, I don't need more skis...).
post #17 of 19
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Do hope Blossom survives. They are the local ski manufacturer for me. Have to keep an eye on prices at their outlet in Chiavenna again this season (though I don't need more skis, I don't need more skis...).
I think Blossom will be OK, they can sell enough skis in Europe and once (if) the dollar gets better, this market can expand. There are a few companies in the U.S. marketing Blossom skis, (Hart for one), Blossom skis are not cheap, thats why they cost more, but IMHO, they are worth the premium over many other skis out there.
post #18 of 19
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Interesting. Don't have enough experience to compare, but I've liked my two pairs of Blossoms well enough to consider buying more, at the right price. Without giving away any state secrets, Phil, who else sells skis made by Blossom?
post #19 of 19
i think the Mark/Volk/Tec arrangement is still good in Canada...
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