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Jester/Griffon ramp angle

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
These two bindings come with 0 deg ramp angle out of the box. Is there any type of shim offered to get this up to a traditional ramp for those of us who have no intention of using this to ski switch?
post #2 of 15
there is 2mm of delta.

Marker doesn't have a specific shim, I'd use canting strip material, or...

I've got 2mm and 3mm Vist shims that would work.

I would try them out as they are, however. Instant pressure to the front of the ski (this will help for Krypton wearers...).
post #3 of 15
Whiteroom, have you measured them? I thought that the Duke/Baron/Jester/Griffon all had zero delta.

I've only measured Duke's & they're definately flat but the UK's Marker distributor tells me the other 3 models are also flat.

Philpug, the Vist shims are excellent but I'd advise against using the full length of the self-adhesive backing as once attached to the ski there's no chance of shifting it. Just expose half an inch at each end to locate it on the ski.
post #4 of 15
You might consider trying them before putting in a shim. There has been a trend over the past few years to minimize added ramp angle in bindings, as excessive ramp was resulting from ramp being built into boots plus bindings. You might like the feel as it is.
post #5 of 15
What ski are you putting them on?
I like flat bindings on my soft-snow skis.

some specs...

Jester:
toe = 21mm
heal = 23mm

Looks:
'09: 14.5 & 17.5
'08: 15 & 19
post #6 of 15
Thread Starter 
I was, more than anything, wondering of this was a question anyone else had.
post #7 of 15
actually I was going to post this question, thanks my telepathic friend....

more specifically, is there any advantage or disadvantage to the neutrality?
post #8 of 15
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post
actually I was going to post this question, thanks my telepathic friend....

more specifically, is there any advantage or disadvantage to the neutrality?
I knew you were going to say that.
post #9 of 15
This is a question probably best suited to the boot gurus for a detailed explanation, but tipping too far forward can throw off your balance by keeping you from being planted on the most stable part of your foot: directly below the lower leg/ankle joint (back of arch/front of heel).
post #10 of 15
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mike_m View Post
This is a question probably best suited to the boot gurus for a detailed explanation, but tipping too far forward can throw off your balance by keeping you from being planted on the most stable part of your foot: directly below the lower leg/ankle joint (back of arch/front of heel).
Most bindings are +3-5 mm from heel to toe, with the Jester being at 0 mm, I think the question is, what is the advantage/benefit/cost (other than skiing switch).
post #11 of 15
Jesters just feel right.

Ramp angle in boots may provide all the tilt you need (possibly, however ymmv)

Definitly try before shimming.
post #12 of 15
Anyone know the ramp angle on the new saloman sth14 driver? Was considering putting those on a new pair on Movement thunders, also considering jesters/griffons, mojo15's... Thoughts???
post #13 of 15
I feel ripped off.
post #14 of 15
the sth's are pretty flat too.
post #15 of 15
ramp is for gapers
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