What daily supplements do you take? - Page 2

Beets? Mmmm... borscht smoothie...

I agree with the exception of vit. D. Some doctors are using it in higher doses now. Bone disorders, ie osteoperosis (sp) and arthritis can benifit from D as a supplement (say 2000?).

Also, re: fish oil - I am taking it, the only supplement right now for me. Make it right here at home with my Bass-O-Matic.

Gummy Vites

Vitamins are not pissed away they provide a service and a function while they are in your system. So they aren't stored, big deal.
Farm raised salmon, cattle and chicken are fed corn and you do not get omega 3 fatty acids from them. Yes even salmon.
Fish oil is the closest thing to a cure all that exists. That's because you aren't adding something to your diet. You are putting something back that should have been there all along. Just like no Vitamin C you get scurvy. No fish oil or omega 3 you get depression, anxiety, joint pain, inflamation etc...
Glutamine is great as well.
Multi Vitamin
CoQ10 and SamE
round out what I take.
From a life long health nut, Natural Bodybuilder, Physical therapist and athlete.
Most Doctors don't know squat about nutrition by the way. This is fact. They aren't trained in it, period!!

this is all interesting.

and i've learned that everything effects people differently.

makes me think of a time when i went to the doctor about 5 years ago. my lower back had been bugging me forever. doctor thought it might be something with the kidneys or liver.

when i told him i was drinking like 12 glasses of water a day he asked incredulously "Why the hell would you do that?" Dumbfounded I answered that I thought it was recommended to drink at least 8 glasses of water a day. He replied "Recommended by whom?" I didn't have an answer for him other than "Well I read it somewhere..." To which he replied "Do you always believe what you read?" He then went on to say that while drinking water was certainly good, it really depended on your body. The 8 glasses was just a rough suggestion, some bodies need more, some less.

Anyway, I saw this bumper sticker the other day:

Eat Well, Feel Well...

Matt, while most of us do the 9-to-5 grind, it is fairly easy to whip up some relatively nutritious meals. I usually do mine in big batches (i.e. if I'm making something for dinner on Monday, then I make enough to tide me over for a few lunches and future dinners). Making your own sauces (tomato, veggie stock) is relatively easy and eliminates all the added sugar and salt found in the store bought varieties. You would be surprised at how easy it is to cook decent food (my roommates are always dumbfounded and impressed when I merely boil pasta, add some asparagus, brocoli, and toss it with homemade tomato sauce...it's so basic and simple it's ridiculous).

this is dated by two years was but for the techies and very interested, tons of "proof" from a very extensive literature search i conducted. to show you bias, the NEJM article on gluco & knee pain was big news a few years back and used to refute the value of glucosamine. because they took a ton of people with sore knees, most had "mild" knee pain, and the mild knee pain people did not get much glucosamine relief, but the mod to severe did, yet the "news" was Gluco does not work, yet who really cares about the "mild" knee poplulation. (see bottom of page 1 for conclusion)

note: i'm like the rest of them, cause even though i see people with degenerative joint disease all day long, it is not really worth it for me to take the time and convince them of taking it when i only get a few dollars back. guess i'm a bad man too!

the zip files have a bunch of gluco articles.

HGH, seriousally its legal as long as your not a pro athlete, its safe and side effect include stuff like scars going away and improved vision. they are even using it to cure

everything you need to know about doping......
http://outside.away.com/outside/body...ug_test_1.html

everything you need to know about legal drugs, remember steriod ares actually legal as well, but its your body and the side effect will far out way the benefits from something like that.

None of this works sitting on your ass all day, you need to do something to get any benefit at all. In fact forget about the drugs and just exercise everyday will be much better than amount of HGH and no working out.

Yes Matt, I agree life is a balance and you pick your poison as many of us do not enjoy the daily meals as so carefully prepared for those highly paid professional athletes. And as I alluded in my prior post; I don’t doubt those vitamin marketing guru’s have us all thinking there is some benefit to the extraordinary supplement doses we take.


Bass-O-Matic is still the first legend of SNL in my book.

I agree Paul with higher D doses prescribed for those you outline including those exceptions I previously mentioned. Otherwise for normal healthy adults vitamin D is easily consumed and appropriately stored in the liver from the consumption of plants (synthesized ergosterol thus converted) and/or further synthesized by us from ultraviolet (UVB) radiation from sunlight. And insofar as sunlight exposure, very little is needed as approaching a “pinking” of your skin (and thus overexposure causing a host of detrimental skin and health issues we all wish to avoid) provides near 20,000 IU’s. Considering that most common consensus and popular publication to date places normal adult (female/male) daily intake at 200 IU’s, most folks should easily meet daily allowance needed to properly maintain normal calcium metabolism without a supplement.

I find “Big deal” is not an appropriate contribution when lacking the fundamental knowledge of how both fat and water soluble vitamins are metabolized and passed or stored in the human body along with the serious issues that may result with any defect in that process. I would hazard a guess it's a big deal for those people suffering from associated maladies...

...of course your conclusion regarding all Doctors otherwise made up for your obvious lack of expertise demonstrated with such a proclamation.

The body flushes out the excess vit C, for example. If you are flushing way too much, the body gets used to - becomes good at - flushing. You don't need to take 1500.

If you are on a calorie restricted diet, chances are that you will not be able to get what the body requires. So, Weight Watchers, as an example, says take a supplement. I think that makes sense.

How much vit C should a person take - certainly more than the FDA sugests. Would you agree?

Research is now showing that anyone on a Statin, cholesterol meds, should be supplementing with CoQ10. That should be right up there with fish oil.

Good to eliminate sugar,but if your eating pasta your not eating as healthy as you think.

It is also an effective laxative in large doses.

If you don't get a little PCB, mercury, DDT, every day how will you ever develop an immunity to it?

Has anyone mentioned Hops, Barley, and Hemp yet?

Seriously though, I used to do the creatine, glutamine, vitamins regiment. Now I just go with a V8 and 12 oz of juice for breakfast. I don't eat anything for breakfast unless I'm actually doing something physical in the morning. If so then add PBJ and a bananna.

oh, you can rest assured that you're getting plenty of it daily, even without excellent sources like like large, predatory fish.

It is really pretty simple....get some exercise every day. You'll need to eat a good volume to fuel yourself. If you eat a reasonable balanced diet in volumes great enough to fuel an active lifestyle you will not be lacking in anything.

I don't know of any studies to contradict that. I don't know of any supplement poppers who are healthier or fitter than people who just exercise and eat reasonably.

The only supplement I use is 1/2 to 1 tsp of Carlson's Norwegian Cod Liver Oil. This is actually on the advice of my ophthalmologist believe it or not. He thinks it will help the cell slough on my eye lids that causes the oil glades to clog. He said the oil is much much better than any of the capsules.

But, I read up on it and it's supposed to be very good. Vitamin A and D, Omege-3s, etc. And you won't OD on anything, unless of course you are eating polar bear livers for lunch.

The Carlson's is lemon-flavored. I don't mind it too bad. Remind me of that oily-lemon furniture polish smell. I take my 1/2-1 tsp right before I eat my breakfast and have coffee so the taste doesn't linger.

-Ken

PBandCodLiverOil

I'll try it. Where do you buy it?

I got the Carlson's online at vitacost.com. Was $23.99 plus $3.99 shipping but I also bought another item or two I needed which made the shipping less of a hit. Bottle will probably last me a yearr.

-K

actually, the protein powder i use in my smoothies is hemp based...

yech....

I'm a health fan of:

1. Anchovies in salads and pizza, pickled herring & fresh mackerel,
2. Milk & vodka,
3. Aspirin every other day,
4. Wheat beer as the best colon cleanser.

After reading the positive news, aI m considering the glucosomine & condroitin....

"What is man, but a twenty five foot tube, with a foul mouth on one end, and an arse hole on the other."

Does anyone take a supplement when they know they're going to be skiing hard for several days in a row, that they wouldn't usually take, day to day?

I take a mineral supplement, Calcium, Magnesium, Zinc, Iron.
It helps with recovery on the legs.

Ginseng

If this post had been made two years ago I would have some list share. But I took some time off from taking anything, and problems arose (pains aches etc). So right now I am only taking a multivitamin....however in the next month or two I will be supplementing heavily (legal at the time of purchase). I also consume lots of olive oil.

A lot of expertise out there, seemingly. Not being an expert on nutrition, I just try to keep it simple and eat as well as I can. Which is quite easy here, given that there's much less in the way of processed foods than you're used to in the States, more of an emphasis on fresh fruits, vegetables and produce and almost no snacking in the culture.

Full disclosure

This thread would mean more if we posted our ages and testified to any meaningful changes in our health as a result of supplementation or dietary changes.

I'm 45. From my late 20s on, my health went into a steady decline: pre-diabetic, obese, high BP, high cholesterol, mentally scattered & some lessor issues.

I went on a high-dose vitamin/mineral regimen that did not help much. A little over a year ago, I started adding more raw fruits & vegetables into my diet. I also moved away from vitamins in pill form and started using whole food supplements (basically veggies & other good foods that have been run through a juicer and dehydrated into a powder). The changes in my health, energy & mental focus have been nothing short of miraculous. A few months into this, I stopped taking my BP meds, diabetes meds & cholesterol meds. I could literally feel that something in me was changing. I had my blood work done a few months after that and then my doctor appointment. He looked at all my improvements across the board and agreed that I made the right choice to stop the meds. If you know anything about how docs react to patients making those kinds of changes on our own, you'll realize how extraordinary this is.

I still need to drop another 35 pounds (already lost 35).

My breakfast consists of:
Green food powders
flax oil
rice protein
chlorella (sea algae)
stevia (natural sweetener)

Those are not supplements, that's my food.

I supplement with:
fish oil capsules (Norwegian)
multi-Vitamin (whole-foods based)
Milk Thistle (wine, beer & scotch drinkers take note - this protects & heals the liver)
Vitamin D (wintertime only)

I eat goji berries, raw chocolate, unprocessed honey, raw virgin coconut oil and other raw foods in addition to the fruits & veggies. I still eat cooked food, just not as much.

I eat very little processed, pre-packaged foods.

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...of course your conclusion regarding all Doctors otherwise made up for your obvious lack of expertise demonstrated with such a proclamation. [/quote]

Don, Please check your reading comprehension. I did not say "all" doctors, I said most.
Fact: Most doctors are not experts in nutrition or supplements.
Your lack of reading comprehension makes me wonder if you are educated enough to converse with.

Omega 3
Multi-Vitamin
Protein Shake after work out:
- Chocolate mint whey protein
- A banana
- All natural no salt added peanut butter
- Fat free milk
- Ice cubes

The protein shake is incredible by the way, I recommend anyone who makes protein shakes try it. Other then that I just eat healthy. I eat fast food only when I'm on the road and it's the only option... this amounts to about once maybe twice a year. My only other unhealthy piece to my diet is one piece of take out food a week and beer in excess on some weekends.