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post #31 of 59
I can't compete with RR, but I'm closer to the bottom than to the top on the "savings" list.

Skiing is more of a vacation for me. So I don't brown bag, nor do I cook my own dinner. I eat out and enjoy the best I can find.

I'll search for deals, but skiing midweek will mean a day without pay. So whatever the "saving" of lift ticket will be less than the pay check lost. Weekend deals are limited at best, and usually come with strings attached... Some I can deal with, others I can't.

There's not much I can do about the cost of gas. Except not drive, that is. So I'd rather sacrefis on the "number" of ski days and focus on ONLY ski on GOOD SNOW days!!! None of that 2 run "early season" ice stuff!

Lodging is a mixed bag. Sometimes I feel like living it out, cost be damned. Other times, I don't mine camping indoors and use an outhouse. I do avoid the cheap motel trying to pass off as "ski lodge" (and price as such)!
post #32 of 59
1800.00 for 100 days of skiing.

1200 pass
600 gear (two new pairs of skis this year)

I don't spend money on mountain and I don't drive either
post #33 of 59
I'm working on the season pass details ...
$680, mid week pass at PCMR (me)
$150x2,kids student unlimited passes PCMR
$99x2, Alta Silver Cards (discount-utah residents will get a lift ticket for $35)
$450 (+-) Deer Valley locals ten pack (me & the mrs.)
$450x2 (+-) Deer Valley local kids program, 6 Saturdays,lessons,lunch and lifts.

totals; $1178 due by 9/30 (Park Citypasses and Alta Cards)
$ 1350 due by 12/30 (Deer Valley program)
$420 Misc. Alta tickets (throughout season)

Grand total; $2948, family of four, full season skiing plus Deer Valley 6 day kids program for two kids.

kids will need bigger boots this winter, on a local shop's trade in program, otherwise, that's it. I've just done my budget homework.
post #34 of 59
Thread Starter 
I almost feel like I've spent my whole life laying the groundwork for cheap skiing. I've developed many ski industry relationships and made life choices based on skiing.

When I was back in High School and trying to decide on a college, proximity to skiing was a must. Since my parents were paying, they insisted in-state tuition. Northern Michigan University was a no-brainer. Marquette is probably one of the truest "ski towns" in Michigan, and Marquette Mountain has terrain that competes with anywhere in the Midwest. (not that that is saying much) I raced on the college team, instructed at the hill and got to know as many people as I could. Over the years, I have stayed involved at the local ski area and I'm lucky enough to have found a great job so I could stay!

Today, here is what my expenses look like:

Season Pass: Free. In fact, I don't remember ever buying a season pass in my life. Racing has always got me a pass, either through the high school or college, or working at a ski area. Currently I work Saturdays and Sundays at the hill setting courses and pacesetting Nastar from about 1 to 3. (sometimes I even punch in!)

Equipment: Free (for me) Dealer cost (for my family) because of my standing and participation in the ski community, I have a position as a "ski area rep" for a couple of companies. This only took me about 25 years to accomplish, but I'm flattered to say that when they were looking for someone in my area, they called me. I really feel like I am an ambassador of the sport and try to meet and help as many people as possible.

Travel: Well, when I'm local, the ski area is 8 miles from my house, so it isn't an issue. It's even closer to where I work. Some days I take a long lunch at the hill and get a few runs in. It's easy to drop by for a few runs because our race department has our own dressing room and I keep all my stuff there.

As for western trips.... I travel a lot for work, and it's pretty easy for me to take a couple vacation days on the front or back end of a business trip and get a few days in. I have a conference in SF this January and I'll ski a few days in Tahoe then, for example. Sometimes I have to work in ski country. In those cases, I can even expense lift tickets if I can take some clients out.

Lodging: Again, relationships have helped me out here... I have free places to stay in Glenwood Springs, Boulder, Tahoe City, Salt Lake City, A condo at the base of the The Canyons (if its unoccupied), and until recently, a home in Driggs Idaho. If I have to pay for lodging, I travel enough to usually be able to use Marriott points.

I've got it pretty dialed in, but it's taken a lot of time and effort to get there...
post #35 of 59
Be Smart. Sometimes I go with a second, or even third choice in a decision.
post #36 of 59
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post
I move to disqualify anybody that has any part time or full time job that is remotely skiing related off the bat.

What about volunteers?

Many guest service hosts and ski patrollers have very sweet deals.
post #37 of 59
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Originally Posted by ZOG View Post
What about volunteers?

Many guest service hosts and ski patrollers have very sweet deals.
That's not a "job". But if you own a ski shop or work for a ski company and get comp tix I'd say that's an unfair advantage. Volunteer patrols, docs, etc definately can count that unless they are on the payroll.
post #38 of 59
Ski patrol should help me rein in expenses this year. My wife and I get free passes; the kids would too, but instead we get the appropriate discount off team. Not clear what that is yet, exactly, but lift access outlays should total under $2500 for a family of five at a resort with a five-plus month season.

My primary expense is my ski lease. That ain't cheap -- call it $11,000 all in, including utilities. But it's for a 3br that's walking distance from the base and skiing distance to the lift that runs below the base. And it should be tax deductible, thanks to patrolling.

Gas is going to be a pain, obviously. And unlike the other mileage rates, charitable has stayed at $0.14/mile since 1998. (During the same period, the business rate has gone from $0.325/mile to $0.585/mile.) In a vehicle that gets about 14.5mpg, for a 460-mile round trip, that means I'll be buying about 32 gallons of gas at, say, $3.25 per -- a little over $100 -- each weekend, offset by a $64 tax deduction each weekend I patrol.

All told, assuming we get 40 days -- mainly weekends, with a couple of weeks thrown in -- figure $1500 for gas, $2500 for the kids' teams, $11,000 for the lease, and it's $15,000 for the season. $375/day ain't cheap by a long shot, but for a family of five, it's not too shabby. And of course, if we manage to get 60 -- feasible, since the kids get 28 weekdays off during between Thanksgiving week and mid-April, and I can work remotely much of the time -- those incremental expenses wouldn't even bump much, but they'd be amortized over 50% more days.
post #39 of 59
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Originally Posted by alpinedad View Post
$375/day ain't cheap by a long shot, but for a family of five, it's not too shabby.
Jeez. I would call that far worse than shabby.
post #40 of 59
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Originally Posted by Harry_Morgan View Post
Jeez. I would call that far worse than shabby.
Let me add some more qualifiers, then.

$375/day total, including instruction, for five people who live on the coast, 200+ miles from the mountains, in a place where it never snows and where average wintertime highs are in the high 50s to mid 60s, ain't bad at all.
post #41 of 59
Like RR said at the openning of the thread. What's cheap for some might be unaffordable for others. Also, what's thrifty for some can be luxury for others too.

The cheapest for a season would be zero dollars. Anyone who pays more than that, lost their running for the "cheapest" season!
post #42 of 59
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Originally Posted by alpinedad View Post
Let me add some more qualifiers, then.

$375/day total, including instruction, for five people who live on the coast, 200+ miles from the mountains, in a place where it never snows and where average wintertime highs are in the high 50s to mid 60s, ain't bad at all.
$100 for gas
$250 for lift tickets
$50 for food for entire day
$75 for lessons for kids
$475 total

Sounds about right to me even on a weekend/holiday, I live 180 miles from the NC areas. That's bare bones for a family day trip IMO. Where are you shaving $100?
post #43 of 59
I have 21 consecutive season passes and have yet to pay for one yet! My mom worked for the mountain when I was young = free pass. Then I started teaching/coaching skiing = kinda free pass. Then I competed in big mtn. comps on the circuit = free. Then I got spancered and began freelancing with filmers/photogs = free with pay.
Before you bust me for braggin'... keep in mind.... this DOES NOT pay the bills. I'm poor! Careful what you wish for kids!!
post #44 of 59
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Originally Posted by alpinedad View Post
Ski patrol should help me rein in expenses this year. My wife and I get free passes; the kids would too, but instead we get the appropriate discount off team. Not clear what that is yet, exactly, but lift access outlays should total under $2500 for a family of five at a resort with a five-plus month season.

My primary expense is my ski lease. That ain't cheap -- call it $11,000 all in, including utilities. But it's for a 3br that's walking distance from the base and skiing distance to the lift that runs below the base. And it should be tax deductible, thanks to patrolling.

Gas is going to be a pain, obviously. And unlike the other mileage rates, charitable has stayed at $0.14/mile since 1998. (During the same period, the business rate has gone from $0.325/mile to $0.585/mile.) In a vehicle that gets about 14.5mpg, for a 460-mile round trip, that means I'll be buying about 32 gallons of gas at, say, $3.25 per -- a little over $100 -- each weekend, offset by a $64 tax deduction each weekend I patrol.

All told, assuming we get 40 days -- mainly weekends, with a couple of weeks thrown in -- figure $1500 for gas, $2500 for the kids' teams, $11,000 for the lease, and it's $15,000 for the season. $375/day ain't cheap by a long shot, but for a family of five, it's not too shabby. And of course, if we manage to get 60 -- feasible, since the kids get 28 weekdays off during between Thanksgiving week and mid-April, and I can work remotely much of the time -- those incremental expenses wouldn't even bump much, but they'd be amortized over 50% more days.
Congrats you spend more than me!!!! But you have 5 people to my 2 and you ski historically 4 times more than me on the average....so I am still the biggest loser....lol!!!...sob sob sob....
post #45 of 59
I have rich bro in law, stay at his ski in/out house on the snowflake lift in Breck. 0$. Fly to/from Denver on frequent fliers, 0$. Rest of trip like common ski tourist. Buy lifts at King Soopers on the way up, food there too, cook in house, mostly. Go once a year for about 5 days and the price is reasonable with the freebies above. Otherwise, not sure our family of 3 skiers would go at all. Skiing is big $.
post #46 of 59
I used to run a ski chalet so had free food, accommodation, and ski pass. Plus paid monthly. But the real killer was I used to buy 36 pack beers for 9 euros and sell each beer for 1euro. I also used to use the shopping budget to buy packed lunch ingredients and sell pack lunches to guests!

Good times, oh and tips as well!
post #47 of 59

Ooh, I win.

For someone who doesn't work at a resort, I definitely win this one

Eldora college pass (unlimited): $129
RTD bus pass: $0 (included with tuition)
Hand-me-down gear: $0
Total: $129

Average days skiing / season: 20
Average cost per day: $6.45
post #48 of 59
I get in about 100 days per year on skis and manage to show a profit for it. Of course my auto shop doesn't do too well in winter but most of my customers store their cars. I only bought two lift tickets last year, one at Squaw and the other at Alpine Meadows. As far as "turns" though I'm way behind the curve on that.
post #49 of 59
income
health insurance
education
savings & investments
continued health
more education
skis & gear
season pass
more education

All the above + weekly days off for skiing = priceless
post #50 of 59
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by SLATZ View Post
I get in about 100 days per year on skis and manage to show a profit for it. Of course my auto shop doesn't do too well in winter but most of my customers store their cars. I only bought two lift tickets last year, one at Squaw and the other at Alpine Meadows. As far as "turns" though I'm way behind the curve on that.
SLATZ, don't you know that Brad Liberty coaches at Alpine now? Sheesh!!! You should have only had to pay for ONE ticket last season.....
post #51 of 59
Good that he's there, sucks that I didn't know that.
You never know where you're going to find a Yooper
post #52 of 59
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Originally Posted by tspike View Post
For someone who doesn't work at a resort, I definitely win this one

Eldora college pass (unlimited): $129
RTD bus pass: $0 (included with tuition)
Hand-me-down gear: $0
Total: $129

Average days skiing / season: 20
Average cost per day: $6.45
That sounds great. Mind if I ask where you go to school?
post #53 of 59
Colorado Card covers the skiing at Vail which ammortizes to approx.$30-$35 a day. Usually stay with neighbor and friend that has a condo at Beaver Creek. He rents the car and writes it off. Frequent flyer tickets usually into Denver or business trip airfare covered.
Used to pack a lunch . But my M&M's on the way over from airport at the Conoco where HH has his ski shop. Last year I ate at Subway 3 nights in a row. How do you beat $5 foot long subs. Drink at the condo, no expensive apre ski drinks.
post #54 of 59
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Originally Posted by at_nyc View Post
The cheapest for a season would be zero dollars. Anyone who pays more than that, lost their running for the "cheapest" season!
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Originally Posted by tspike View Post
For someone who doesn't work at a resort, I definitely win this one

Eldora college pass (unlimited): $129
RTD bus pass: $0 (included with tuition)
Hand-me-down gear: $0
Total: $129

Average days skiing / season: 20
Average cost per day: $6.45
Well Spike, I aim to win that crown.
I will be spending 0$ this season and should get 40 to 50 days in plus a dozen BC days.

Two passes paid for by non-ski related employer. (Radio station)
I can take a bus to 5 different ski areas.
Pretty much have all the gear I need (Most of it was free too, see the other thread)

I only buy coffee at the resort, Occasional tip and apres beer...I'd say < $100.

Avg cost should be $2.00 per day, mostly in coffee.

It's good to be teh Bondo.
post #55 of 59
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Originally Posted by U.P. Racer View Post
Who gets the most turns and spends the LEAST amount of money?

How do you do it?
Last year...
I bought a pair of powder skis that sold new for $800 or so, on ebay for $150
I racing ski that sold for $400 new for $10 bucks on ebay. Me on a racing ski, LOL
I skied 75 days at Snowbird ( most either powder or awesome spring conditions ) for ... $900/75 = $12 a day.
post #56 of 59
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Originally Posted by simonbda View Post
It seems to me that there is an intangible trade-off between just going to ski and getting a part-time job to afford more ski days. In my case I'm sure I wouldn't be as thrilled to go skiing if I have to spend 4+ hours teaching and only 2 freeskiing. And also in my case it would be impossible to leave my job just so I can be closer to the mountains.
I agree. I could never see myself working a standard on mountain job. There are some sweet gigs for the lucky few. I think you are probably one of the only people here where that "impossible" really does mean that too.

I spent entirely too much money on gasoline last year. Somehow I need to control that cost better this year.
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Originally Posted by crgildart
But if you own a ski shop or work for a ski company and get comp tix I'd say that's an unfair advantage. V
How on earth is that an unfair advantage? That is like saying that me not having a bunch of crotch fruit is an unfair advantage over the folks here with kids. We all make choices.
post #57 of 59
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Originally Posted by Garrett View Post
How on earth is that an unfair advantage? That is like saying that me not having a bunch of crotch fruit is an unfair advantage over the folks here with kids. We all make choices.
Well in that case I suppose Bode wins
post #58 of 59
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post
Well in that case I suppose Bode wins
Well, he is a winner.
post #59 of 59
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Originally Posted by Garrett View Post
Well, he is a winner.
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