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What type of Jacket for me?

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
Hey guys,

So I'm looking to buy a new jacket for this upcoming ski season, but I'm pretty much completely lost. Up until now I've been using an LLBean Parker, which, don't get me wrong, has served me greatly but I think it's time to move up.

I'm looking at the spyder insulated jackets, but there's no good comparison of them out there. The only thing to go by on their website is a description from Spyder (which all sound similar and all make the product sound good) and then the price. Can anyone recommend a great jacket in a few different price ranges, like the 500-600, 300-400, and 100-200 dollar range?

Thanks in advance for your help!
post #2 of 21
Going from LL Bean to Spyder seems a leap to me.

Rather than just find jackets based on price, base it on your skiing style and level. Where do you ski, how often do you ski, what level skier are you?
post #3 of 21
The first question you need to decide on is if you want a shell jacket (basically protects you from the elements, but won't keep you warm by itself) or an insulated jacket (like Spyder). The benefits of a shell is the versatility of it; i.e., you can pile layers on underneath for the bitterly cold days or you can dress lightly underneath for those spring days, and it just works. With an insulated jacket -- well, you're insulated whether you want to be or not.

I only use shells. Patagonia, Marmot, Mountain Hardwear, Arc'Teryx, the North Face -- they all make skiing-specific shell jackets at a variety of price ranges.

Spyder, Descente, Obermeyer, Phenix... They all make insulated jackets if you want to compare features.

Type some of those brand-names into the search feature on these forums and you'll find specific recommendations within each brand, likes, dislikes, etc.

Also deciding what features you want -- i.e., lots of pockets? A special place for your iPod? Pit zips? Zip-off sleeves? Level of water-proofness? will help you narrow down your choices even further.
post #4 of 21
Thread Starter 
In reply to Bonni:
I've been skiing for 11 years now and am on my college's club team. I'd say I'm around an 8.5-9. (Hence why I want to get into a high quality jacket).

I live in New England so the temp range can vary from bitter cold in the dead of winter to 50-60 degrees while spring skiing. I guess it's time to pick up some sort of hard shell.

Thanks for the advice Kevin, so basically, it goes some sort of inner layer like underarmor etc. and then something like a northface fleece, and then the hard shell on top of that correct?
post #5 of 21
Last season, I made changed my full time jacket from a Sypder to a shell. I don't regret it one bit! Some features I look for are well placed pockets, mp3 holder on the left side of the jacket, & core venting.
post #6 of 21
Thread Starter 
How do people like the ArcTeryx sidewinders? Any big differences between the SV and the AR?
post #7 of 21
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Originally Posted by Salvuccim View Post
I live in New England so the temp range can vary from bitter cold in the dead of winter to 50-60 degrees while spring skiing. I guess it's time to pick up some sort of hard shell.

Thanks for the advice Kevin, so basically, it goes some sort of inner layer like underarmor etc. and then something like a northface fleece, and then the hard shell on top of that correct?
I tend to pile on a bunch of lighter layers. For "normal New England winter weather", I'll usually put on two long-sleeve polypro shirts, and then I'll just put a 100 or 200 weight fleece over that with my jacket over that. I prefer to be a bit chilly though, so your layering solution will probably vary depending on your personal preferences of how warm you want to be.
post #8 of 21

Sidewinder

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Originally Posted by Salvuccim View Post
How do people like the ArcTeryx sidewinders? Any big differences between the SV and the AR?
I love my Arc Sidewinder AR and think that it is plenty of jacket for general use skiing. I see the SV as overkill unless you are backcountry skiing in nasty weather. Fit on the AR is fairly athletic, but not overly so. I'm 6' 1' and 185 and the medium fits me with room to spare for layers. The sidewinder zipper takes a bit of getting used to, but is fine after you do.

As for general jacket recommendations, I've been happy with the North Face, Marmot, and Mountain Hardwear stuff I'd had. The Arc'teryx stuff I've bought recently is a big step up in fit and finish.

Hardshell with multiple layering options is the way to go. I also have an Arc'teryx softshell for days without lots of precipitation and like it as well. The softshell breathes much better than the hardshell when you are skiing hard.

I'd recommend:
Hardshell
Heavy weight fleece for really cold days
Light fleece for warmer days
Some type of vest which you can use under the shell on even warmer days, or under either of the fleeces to add core warmth.

I find myself skiing most often in a baselayer, vest and shell most of the time down to about 20-25 degrees and adding a fleece if it's colder than that.

Good luck on your search!
post #9 of 21
I own a couple very nice Spyder products, they're great at what they're designed for, but I still prefer to ski in a shell with layering most of the time. There's another thread on Spyder in the Gear forum right now, it's worth a look certainly.

If you're only going to own one jacket, I strongly suggest making it a shell. It's the best option in terms of versatility - layer whatever you need fo rthe day, and toss a couple alternates in a pack/locker in the event it gets warmer/colder.
post #10 of 21
Honestly I really feel that for the majority of people, any of the name brand jackets will serve you well. I think you only need to outline your criteria and then only you will be able to decide no matter what others think.

Whats the most you are willing to spend?
What features do you need?
What kind of jacket (insulated, or not)?
Lastly and maybe the most important, do you like the appearance? (you "core" folks..dont play it off, you know that the appearance is a huge deciding factor whether you like to admit it or not)
Once you have your short list, does it fit right?
post #11 of 21
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by MikeC View Post
I love my Arc Sidewinder AR and think that it is plenty of jacket for general use skiing. I see the SV as overkill unless you are backcountry skiing in nasty weather. Fit on the AR is fairly athletic, but not overly so. I'm 6' 1' and 185 and the medium fits me with room to spare for layers. The sidewinder zipper takes a bit of getting used to, but is fine after you do.

As for general jacket recommendations, I've been happy with the North Face, Marmot, and Mountain Hardwear stuff I'd had. The Arc'teryx stuff I've bought recently is a big step up in fit and finish.

Hardshell with multiple layering options is the way to go. I also have an Arc'teryx softshell for days without lots of precipitation and like it as well. The softshell breathes much better than the hardshell when you are skiing hard.

I'd recommend:
Hardshell
Heavy weight fleece for really cold days
Light fleece for warmer days
Some type of vest which you can use under the shell on even warmer days, or under either of the fleeces to add core warmth.

I find myself skiing most often in a baselayer, vest and shell most of the time down to about 20-25 degrees and adding a fleece if it's colder than that.

Good luck on your search!

I'm leaning towards the Arc Sidewinder AR. I'm about 5'9.5" and 155 pounds. Sounds like I'd be a small? What stores usually carry these? How do you like it in terms of pockets, utility, and appearance?
post #12 of 21
Does everyone on this board wear strictly technical jacket stuff? If you are on your college club ski team(I am co captain for University of Nebraska's) wouldn't you want to be fashionable? I am not at all saying that tech jackets aren't but why don't you check out SMS or some of Oakley ski gear (Seth Morrison) or Helly Hansen makes some bomb stuff. I am by no means saying turn into a newschooler but at least explore your options.
post #13 of 21
Only one of my jackets is old school technical, ironically its my newest jacket, the Spyder. The other two are by Burton and Bodyglove, technical, but with da new school flava.
post #14 of 21
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Originally Posted by Richie-Rich View Post
Only one of my jackets is old school technical, ironically its my newest jacket, the Spyder. The other two are by Burton and Bodyglove, technical, but with da new school flava.
Not to jack the thread

This brings up a good point. Since there are very few "newschool" ski clothing companies is it stylish to wear snowboard gear?
post #15 of 21
Thread Starter 
To be honest, I like the look of the fitted jackets more than the bulkier look of the Burtons etc. I know its a stereotype, but those types of jackets I feel look best in the terrain park...but that's just me.

It seems as if the Arc AR is the direction I'm going in, what are the rival shells to that model?
post #16 of 21
If your a size L, do yourself a favor and buy the Arcteryx Gamma MX hoody from Finn. It's a nice jacket, and well-worth what he's asking.
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=71619
post #17 of 21
I love my Orage jacket for "da new school flava". High quality, stylish, nice fit.

And, last time I checked, sierratradingpost had some pretty sweet deals on them.
post #18 of 21
If you're on your college club team, are you going to want to wear a padded top under this jacket?
post #19 of 21
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Originally Posted by SkiNebraski View Post
Not to jack the thread

This brings up a good point. Since there are very few "newschool" ski clothing companies is it stylish to wear snowboard gear?

Well the twin tip guys wear them. Honestly, the reason I got them was the prices. Snowboarder gear for the most part is worlds away cheaper for essentially the same type of stuff. I bought the pinnacle of Burton technology, Tactics line, with every option under the sun, blew away the comparable ski jackets at the time, and for several hundred dollars less. For a SB jacket it was not cheap, I think I paid about $500, but had it been one of the skier brands, it would have been north of $700. Incidentally Burton no longer seems to make those high price-point jackets. That jacket even after several years of use is still in excellent shape and extremely functional.
post #20 of 21
I just got a sessions winker houndstooth, it is a tough shell with a bit of insulation. It looks pretty warm but even more wind/waterproof. Also, it has plenty of baggy and length.
post #21 of 21

hi i am new at this forum ( first post)

i would like to ask you a few questions about these jackets
i found this coats on sales this week i saw  them i liked them
and i need help what to choose
i want a good mountain jacket to protect me from the cold at the mountains
i dont ski i dont walking too much just to be warm enough
i cold too easy thats why i need a warm jacket

thanks for your time

i found this check them and give me your opinion plz
also tell me for other jackets
i would like to a 3 in 1 jacket so i can wear it at spring also

http://www.columbia.com/Men%E2%80%99s-Lhotse-Mountain%E2%84%A2-Parka/SM7826,default,pd.html

http://www.salomon.com/us/product/granite-31-jacket-m.html

http://www.thenorthface.com/catalog/sc-gear/mens-jackets-vests/mens-cassius-triclimate-jacket.html?from=subCat&variationId=36Z

http://www.thenorthface.com/catalog/sc-gear/mens-jackets-vests/mens-atlas-triclimate-jacket.html?from=subCat&variationId=JB6

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