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post #1 of 23
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I now have enough skis to have the luxury of deeming a pair, the oldest but still dear to me, rock skis. These are my first such skis, I have always taken much care of all my skis, repair them as needed, dilligently wax, and sharpen them all. So now I am at a loss, should I keep up the care for these workhorses, or just abuse them and use them until they are garbage? What do you do? As I type this I have my rock-skis to-be sitting at home with some extensive yet fresh base repairs, waiting to be stone ground and then resharpened and waxed...so enlighten me.
post #2 of 23

Rock Skis

Makes all the sense in the world to appoint a pair of skis "rock skis", but when you take such excruciating care of your skis, I think it will become psychological regarding the fact that you never want any of your skis to be any less maintained.
post #3 of 23
I rent rock skis; I like my own skis too much.
post #4 of 23
Skis are skis. I don't get emotionally attached to them. I have taken a brand new pair out at Mad River Glen.
post #5 of 23
I look for ski swap skis just before closing. Last year it was some Atomic R-20's with bindings for $25. Fernie opened with hardly any snow, so I used them for a week or two, with no emotional attachment..Crunch, scrape, gouge.......I took the bindings and chucked the ski when we moved.
post #6 of 23
Took a pair of rock-duty Dynastar Intuitiv BIGs out to Hood.

$25 for an extra bag so I yanked the LOOKs off and gave the Dynastars to a lady in the lodge.
post #7 of 23
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
I rent rock skis; I like my own skis too much.
Ghost, you should know that one of the few real benefits of skiing in Ontario is that even when you hit a patch lacking in snow, the worst you're going to get is some grass, dirt clumps and maybe a pebble or two - maybe some household refuse and landfill if you're skiing MSLM
post #8 of 23
keep tuning and caring for them as you always would, just don't worry about thin cover and such while skiing early and late season.

well---maybe just sharpen and knock the burrs off instead of finishing the edges to a shaving consistency.

wax for the day same as always, 'ceptin maybe not so much elbow grease finishing 'em off.
post #9 of 23
So, is any ski a good "rock ski"? I was thinking about selling my first pair of skis (Volkl unlimited s1, 66mm underfoot), but I'm thinking that I could use them as a rock ski. I guess I don't need a fatter ski for early season conditions anyway.
post #10 of 23
All skis are rock skis. I read a Vietnam book once, I forget which one now (Platoon Leader, James McDonough maybe?), where the author said that when he went to Vietnam he considered himself to be dead. That way if he made it back, it was a bonus, but if he didn't, it didn't matter because he was already dead. So I look at my skis that way, and I ski them into the dumpster. They all get tuned and waxed until the grinder finds the base or something falls off.
post #11 of 23
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Originally Posted by simonbda View Post
So, is any ski a good "rock ski"? I was thinking about selling my first pair of skis (Volkl unlimited s1, 66mm underfoot), but I'm thinking that I could use them as a rock ski. I guess I don't need a fatter ski for early season conditions anyway.
Ah, but fat skis can float on less snow. Get some $50 Coyotes or sumpin'
post #12 of 23
Craigslist!

I still tune them best I can, but when they cost $25 I don't fuss over them when I hear what might be a core shot or pulled edge..
post #13 of 23
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What do you do?
I don't worry about it. All my skis are rock skis.

RR - you're think waaayyy to much about this skiing thing. Just do it.
post #14 of 23
Used for the first week or two and the last week or two.

Don't spend money on a grind. You aren't skiing on a perfect surface (note the grinding noises beneath your feet) ...

P-Tex candle, quick razor shave and light sanding for a gouge.

Do the edges and wax..... sure why not?

With only a few weeks use a year it sounds like they have five or six worry free years left in them.

Rip and edge loose on a rock .... look for the dumpster after you salvage the bindings.
post #15 of 23
My rock ski is a Volkl 724 Pro. Having rocks skis is only a solution if they are on your feet when you hit the rock.

Jiminy early season is loaded with rocks or stones that are hard to see. The stones get churned up by the groomer. Jiminy don't cover the whole trail, yet the thin cover on the sides hides what's below. The feeling of p-tex peeling makes me ill, especially since I always take my good skis.
post #16 of 23

rock skis

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Originally Posted by newfydog View Post
I look for ski swap skis just before closing. Last year it was some Atomic R-20's with bindings for $25. Fernie opened with hardly any snow, so I used them for a week or two, with no emotional attachment..Crunch, scrape, gouge.......I took the bindings and chucked the ski when we moved.
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Originally Posted by Yuki View Post
Used for the first week or two and the last week or two.

Don't spend money on a grind. You aren't skiing on a perfect surface (note the grinding noises beneath your feet) ...

P-Tex candle, quick razor shave and light sanding for a gouge.

Do the edges and wax..... sure why not?

With only a few weeks use a year it sounds like they have five or six worry free years left in them.

Rip and edge loose on a rock .... look for the dumpster after you salvage the bindings.


DITTO. If they're rock ski's why would you want to stone grind them, that will happen on the real stones. Have Atomic R1o's, cost me $50 at early season ski swap. Good ski's for early season or BAD season. Saves my good ski's. I might hit with file to get the big stuff off and throw a little wax on them but thats it.
post #17 of 23
I get a big kick out of buying a pair of lightly used skis that sat in someone's garage rusting for four years for next to nothing and filing them down to practically new condition, filling any gouges, then waxing them. With about 30 minutes of elbow grease they're usually good to go assuming they aren't totally pitted. That's what's actually good about living three hours from the mountains. Lots of folks buy great skis then use them three times and forget about them until garage sale time.
post #18 of 23
I thought my 8800's were my rock skis. Then I hit something unfriendly that left a deep gouge parallel to and near but not crossing an edge. The emotional disturbance upon discovery told me I have no rock skis. Just skis and we take our chances when we click them on.

Holes in your bases ? That's just skiing. Better your base than your head. Bases down . Skier happy,
post #19 of 23
Some of the best skiing is among the rocks, so skis that can be ruined are more important than skis that are to dear to wreck. I have pair of 180cm Fischer Scenio S500 I use as my early & late season skis. These are great all mountain ski very solid in crud for a skinny ski. I also like the carbonfiber top-skin & racing plate.

Michael
post #20 of 23
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post
Craigslist!

I still tune them best I can, but when they cost $25 I don't fuss over them when I hear what might be a core shot or pulled edge..
Well they are my first skis, but they sure didnt cost me $25, more like $700 with bindings. Only one stone grind, but these are the skis that have a crack of one of the edges and somehow got bent and I bent them back...so they really are living many lives at this point.
post #21 of 23
My "rock skis" are Atomic Tweaks from 2005:

The bases have core shots the size of quarters, the edges are round, and I can ski 'em anywhere. I wax them only when they start to stick, and I shave off chunks of base when they present themselves. Aside from that, they are what they are...

That being said, the only skis I own that DONT occasionally see rocks are my Rossi Z9's (ie. East Coast Ice Skis) Everything else gets nicked and dinged, because the terrain that I want to ski usually has exposed rocks in it no matter what time of year.

I feel like we spend so much money on gear, we should use it to it's full potential... and for anything that goes off the corduroy this means potential contact with rocks. I have much more fun skiing what I want and patching my bases later than I would avoiding the places where they might get damaged!
post #22 of 23
There are two types of skis...

1. Rock skis
2. Soon to be rock skis
post #23 of 23
I'm with Phil....

My friends laugh.....but WTF...I am not entering any race where 1/100 of a second matters.

Holes are what Ptex was made for. Bent/dented edges...that is what tiny hammers are for. Coreshots....Ptex lasts about 2 days...then do it again.

Why miss a good run because the "thought" of a few rocks or mud. I ski it no matter what I am wearing.
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