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post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 
So I'm really excited about my latest purchase. I got some '08 Gotama's 183's for a pretty good price. I'm looking for suggestions for a decent binding for this ski. Any help would be great. I'm 6'1" 190 lb. Level 7/8. Thanks!
post #2 of 24
Two words, Marker Dukes... I have the 183 got's as well and this is the Best set-up I've personally ever been on...
post #3 of 24
Along the same thought but I am going with Giffons. Same wide toe and heel.
post #4 of 24
What DIN do you run?

What bindings do you currently use? What do you like/dislike about them? Are those skis remaining in your quiver or getting retired (in which case you might swap the clamps over)?

What's your budget?

Are you looking for straight alpine or AT?

Are these for you and only you to use or to share?

Do you know where you want them mounted fore/aft, or would you prefer to have flexibility?
post #5 of 24
As an alternative to the Duke, you might consider the new Marker Baron. A bit lighter and cheaper than the Duke, and the DIN only goes to 12. Same width and touring mode as the Duke.

I would think the Gotama with either the Duke or Baron would be ideal for Utah. The AT capability opens up possibilities for out of bounds/BC skiing. It also should make it easier on the traverses to get to the good stuff at Alta, Bird, and Honeycomb Canyon.
post #6 of 24
What they said ....
post #7 of 24
Why does everyone always suggest Dukes when the OP made no indication that he wants the AT capability?

If we're just randomly throwing out answers, Look PX12. Good binding that can usually be found at a very good price.

Otherwise, alpinedad's answer is the best one so far.
post #8 of 24
Again, look at the Griffons.... same wide interface, just w/out AT setup. You can buy for $229, I don't disagree at all with Alpine, but the question was bindings for Gots. These are our opinions...
post #9 of 24
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post
... but the question was bindings for Gots. These are our opinions...
for when and for where?

I've been skiing for 31 years and I'm still contemplating which bindings I want on my goats. Ironically, I've been riding them for nearly six years.

I currently run Fritsches on first gen 183's. As a resort/touring rig... I hate it. Fritsches suck for a resort/touring rig. Fritsches suck at any resort. Period.

A- If your goat is going to be mostly BC with occasional pow days at the resort = fritsche

B- If your goat is going to be a resort-ski with occasional days touring = duke

C- If your goat is strictly a resort ski- check out either a Look or a Jester... depending on your prefered ramp angle... If you're an alpiner at heart... go Look. If you are fairly loose-in-the-knees and enjoy a surfy feel... go jester.

Get it?
post #10 of 24
Got it (nice pun huh?) and yes, I agree with the proposed format

ADD: in "C" The new Marker Griffon. In speaking to many, the wider toe and heel plate just makes sense and really makes a difference. So the Griffon offers that but without the AT setup; perfrect for gapers like me!
post #11 of 24
Griffon= 12 (or 14?)
Jester= 16

(?)

I think.

Either way... it's touring vs. clamps... and then it's clamps vs. angles.

Quite simple really: Look, Marker, Fritsche : touring, kind of, not-at-all
post #12 of 24
12, perfect for inbound gapers! I have my dins at 9.5.
post #13 of 24
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post
Again, look at the Griffons.... same wide interface, just w/out AT setup. You can buy for $229, I don't disagree at all with Alpine, but the question was bindings for Gots. These are our opinions...
Finndog, I wasn't actually taking issue with your Griffon suggestion. When I responded, there were 5 posts, and 3 of them were suggesting Dukes/Barons. Dukes are constantly recommended by people as the binding to put on some skis (Goats being one of them) and I don't get it. There is zero reason to get a Duke or Baron if you're not going to do any side/back-country. A Griffon makes *much* more sense to me than either a Duke, Baron or Jester in this case. 12 DIN is enough for most people, especially a level 7/8 at 190#. Even the Jester still makes more sense than a Duke/Baron, at least until the OP says anything about wanting the touring functionality.

I do like the 3 options samurai came up with, and I agree, the Griffon would probably work very well in Option C. Caveat: I have not skied any of the new markers with the wider toe/heel, but I'd like to try them out.
post #14 of 24
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Originally Posted by jaobrien6 View Post
12 DIN is enough for most people, especially a level 7/8 at 190#.
Unless said skier has teeny feet.
post #15 of 24
Man, those would be some seriously little feet.
post #16 of 24

Jester v Griffon

One thing to consider in addition to the spring/din range is the construct.

Jester has metal towers on the heal piece, on the Griffon/Barron they are made high strength plastic/resin.

You can have lighter and cheaper or you can heavier and more durable.

Its a good option to have.
post #17 of 24
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Originally Posted by samurai View Post
Fritsches suck for a resort/touring rig. Fritsches suck at any resort. Period.

Your combo in particular might suck but that generalization doesn't make sense. Am using Fritschies inbounds on skinnier boards which does not suck at all - even when charging. Same time it's my dedicated AT setup since I don't own a specific resort/hardpack quiver any more.

Back to the topic: can confirm Dukes work excellent on Goats -the setup skies bomber and I couldn't be happier. If occasional ascents with not too much verticals are part of the game plan then this is the route to go.
post #18 of 24
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Originally Posted by Gotama View Post
One thing to consider in addition to the spring/din range is the construct.

Jester has metal towers on the heal piece, on the Griffon/Barron they are made high strength plastic/resin.

You can have lighter and cheaper or you can heavier and more durable.

Its a good option to have.
that's a good point. Thanks.
post #19 of 24
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Originally Posted by jaobrien6 View Post
Finndog, I wasn't actually taking issue with your Griffon suggestion. I do like the 3 options samurai came up with, and I agree, the Griffon would probably work very well in Option C. Caveat: I have not skied any of the new markers with the wider toe/heel, but I'd like to try them out.
sorry I didn't catch on, I'm a little slow in the heat....
post #20 of 24
Thread Starter 
The Dukes look good and I would love to have the AT capability when needed but that is not my main concern or need. I'm most likely looking for an inexpensive quality alpine setup for this ski. Does anyone have an opinion on the Marker 12.0 Free?
post #21 of 24
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Originally Posted by dinidar524 View Post
I'm most likely looking for an inexpensive quality alpine setup for this ski. Does anyone have an opinion on the Marker 12.0 Free?
Everyone does. A search would reveal a split running approximately 3 to 1 against.

So you're looking for something in the $150 range plus wide brakes. Call it under $200.

In that case, there are many better choices.

Just above that, if you want to go Marker for warranty purposes without risking Markering out (see Aspen Extreme if you don't understand the reference), you could consider the Marker Griffon, a.k.a. the low-DIN version of the Jester.

Other strong options in the target price range are the Look PX12/Rossignol Axial2 12-DIN (they're the same model with different branding), the Tyrolia/Head Mojo 15, or the Tyrolia HD 14 Railflex.
post #22 of 24
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Originally Posted by dinidar524 View Post
So I'm really excited about my latest purchase. I got some '08 Gotama's 183's for a pretty good price. I'm looking for suggestions for a decent binding for this ski. Any help would be great. I'm 6'1" 190 lb. Level 7/8. Thanks!

At your size/weight/ability - how do you find the goats at that length. Do you wish they were 190's? or are you pleased w/ the 183's?

thanks
post #23 of 24
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Originally Posted by jaobrien6 View Post
Why does everyone always suggest Dukes when the OP made no indication that he wants the AT capability?
Probably because it's what all the cool kids are doing these days. I'm really beginning to think I could buy a pair of Dukes and mount them on a pair of 2x4s and it would be the most amazing combo I've ever skied.

Rossi/Look PX 12 or some 12+ DIN Salomon driver toe binders on ebay.
post #24 of 24
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Originally Posted by dinidar524 View Post
The Dukes look good and I would love to have the AT capability when needed but that is not my main concern or need. I'm most likely looking for an inexpensive quality alpine setup for this ski.
If you don't want to spend the $$$ on the Dukes/Jester/Griffons and want a great binding at a great price, check out the '08 PX12 Ti Wide (with a lifter, but its only 6mm) for $149 @ http://ski.alpenglowcolorado.com/cat...r_wide_binding

It's what I got for my new Got's
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