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Armstrong 2nd Leadville

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Thread Starter 
Leadville seems to be the race for ex-Tour champs to MTB.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...48_digs10.html
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Leadville's course is not very technical compared to a lot of MTB race courses. Over 30 percent of the course is on well-graded or paved roads, the only major challenge to most being the extreme altitude.

So it's no wonder that Lance can come in (with a good amount of training at altitude, mind you) and do well. And Landis is a former MTB racer, so his performance in 2007 (with far less prep work than Armstrong put in) is not surprising, either.

And that Wiens beat Lance? Again, no surprise. DW is a great racer, even with his now limited schedule.

So kudos to DW, kudos to LA: for pushing the envelope, for raising each other's game, and for making this year's Leadville 100 one for the ages.
post #3 of 17

go lance

post #4 of 17
I'm just wainting for Lance to kick it up a notch and try some of this:
post #5 of 17
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Originally Posted by songfta View Post
Leadville's course is not very technical compared to a lot of MTB race courses. Over 30 percent of the course is on well-graded or paved roads, the only major challenge to most being the extreme altitude.

So it's no wonder that Lance can come in (with a good amount of training at altitude, mind you) and do well. And Landis is a former MTB racer, so his performance in 2007 (with far less prep work than Armstrong put in) is not surprising, either.

And that Wiens beat Lance? Again, no surprise. DW is a great racer, even with his now limited schedule.

So kudos to DW, kudos to LA: for pushing the envelope, for raising each other's game, and for making this year's Leadville 100 one for the ages.

the video is amazing

http://www.superhumanmag.com/content/view/763/92/

after my failed attempt at riding the trails along the top of the park city basin in all in a day, I can very much appreciate how fast these guys were for over 100 miles.

Also Lance has alot of experience on mountain bikes, austin has alot of very technical singletrack trails around the city he is seen all the time by local riders out on those trails. I think he would hold his own at any XC style MTB race. Lance has even raced at the Mount Snow in 99 on what is argueable one of the more tech course in the NORBA circuit.
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Wiens reached the finish on a flat back tire in 6 hours, 45 minutes, 45 seconds, shaving 13 minutes off the record he set last year while holding off Floyd Landis.
Core.
post #7 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the video BWPA. Wiens and Armstrong PUSHING their bikes uphill, and jockeying for position! I would have never thought it possible.
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
Also Lance has alot of experience on mountain bikes, austin has alot of very technical singletrack trails around the city he is seen all the time by local riders out on those trails. I think he would hold his own at any XC style MTB race. Lance has even raced at the Mount Snow in 99 on what is argueable one of the more tech course in the NORBA circuit.
He's raced a fair amount of cyclocross too. He even beat santa once.

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Originally Posted by songfta View Post
Leadville's course is not very technical compared to a lot of MTB race courses. Over 30 percent of the course is on well-graded or paved roads, the only major challenge to most being the extreme altitude.

So it's no wonder that Lance can come in (with a good amount of training at altitude, mind you) and do well. .

The surprising thing was that Armstrong was the faster descender of the pair:


Leadville Trail 100: Armstrong leads Wiens.
Photo: Joseph Kreiss

"Despite the huge gap, the two rode together like road riders on a long distance breakaway, sharing the work on the smooth sections. Surprisingly, Armstrong was often the stronger rider on the descents, while Wiens, a two-time mountain bike world cup winner, was more conservative, wary of flatting or crashing."
http://tour-de-france.velonews.com/a...adville-record
post #10 of 17
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Originally Posted by newfydog View Post
The surprising thing was that Armstrong was the faster descender of the pair
that does NOT surprise me.
post #11 of 17
Anyone know if 9th place Kevin Andrews is the skier?
Anyone know how Kloser did?
post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by carbonissimo View Post
that does NOT surprise me.
why should it surprise anyone? Lance was on a 4.5 inch travel fuel and weins was on a 2inch travel soft tail with steeper geo.

more travel is better thing down and UP on trails. Its important that it works as well. I use to love hearing my friends talk about how 'stiff' thier forks and shock were and I tried to tell them thats not the point and they didnt seem to get it....
post #13 of 17
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Originally Posted by SHREDHEAD View Post
Anyone know if 9th place Kevin Andrews is the skier?
Anyone know how Kloser did?
When in doubt about all things bike racing, velonews.

http://www.velonews.com/results/81522
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Originally Posted by Lonnie View Post
When in doubt about all things bike racing, velonews.

http://www.velonews.com/results/81522

Thanks,

1. No
2. Must not have raced.
post #15 of 17
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
why should it surprise anyone? Lance was on a 4.5 inch travel fuel and weins was on a 2inch travel soft tail with steeper geo.
more travel is better thing down and UP on trails.
All right, here we go again!

Lance was close to using a 29er hardtail. Hardtails are showing up at the trans Rockies too.:


"TransRockies VII kicked off in true mountain fashion Sunday Following an introductory parade lap through Panorama, riders ascended to the literal high point of the week, at nearly 2,500 metres, after tackling a steep vertical wall that no doubt had everyone wondering early on what else TR could possibly throw at them this week.

According to Hestler the Italians flew up the first climb like they were riding weightless hard-tails, and in fact they were, leaving their fully suspended Rocky Mountain rivals behind them."

http://www.velonews.com/article/8158...rockies-opener
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Originally Posted by newfydog View Post
All right, here we go again!

Lance was close to using a 29er hardtail. Hardtails are showing up at the trans Rockies too.:


"TransRockies VII kicked off in true mountain fashion Sunday Following an introductory parade lap through Panorama, riders ascended to the literal high point of the week, at nearly 2,500 metres, after tackling a steep vertical wall that no doubt had everyone wondering early on what else TR could possibly throw at them this week.

According to Hestler the Italians flew up the first climb like they were riding weightless hard-tails, and in fact they were, leaving their fully suspended Rocky Mountain rivals behind them."

http://www.velonews.com/article/8158...rockies-opener
Agreed, on "here we go again...."

http://forums.epicski.com/showpost.p...9&postcount=26

Easier than typing all of it again.
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Originally Posted by Lonnie View Post
A LIGHTER bike WILL climb better than a HEAVIER bike EVERY TIME all things being equal. It doesn't matter if the lighter bike is a hard-tail or FS, it WILL out climb a heavier bike. It's simple physics
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Actually the pysics is anything but simple. Things are not even close to equal. A suspended bike will coast farther than a hardtail of the same weight on the flats, because the mass of the rider does not waste energy going up and down on every bump.

The same goes in climbing. The suspended bike goes over rocks with less energy. However, mix in all the real life variables of weight, the rider bobbing when pedaling out of the saddle, etc and you have a topic worth debating. Thats why I dredged this topic up----there is no right answer. Sometimes big travel is faster, sometimes it isn't.
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