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need a very warm jacket - not particularly for skiing

post #1 of 10
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I need a jacket that is very warm (if its just a shell it needs to be able to have something that can zip into it, but i'd prefer it just be sold as one piece).

Anyways, I have a orage shell, and i plan on using that for skiing, but it doesnt have any way of zipping anything in to make it warmer, i just layer it. It works fine - for skiing.

But for everyday use... i need something a little more functional.

So, I need something very warm. Any specific models that are specifically warm.

That is really all I care about, warmth, and looks (no down jackets, they are warm, but i don't like the looks of them).
post #2 of 10
down = warmest

you can get other "puffy" jackets that are not down, but synthetic. They are cheaper, not as compressible, won't regulate temp changes as well.

you can also find down jackets that don't look like the stay puff marshmellow. look up burton, sessions, patagonia
post #3 of 10
I have the Patagonia Rubicon jacket with 100grams of insulation. NOT DOWN It's VERY warm. Excellent pockets, pit zips and a great soft material that looks and feels like fabric. I am wearing it in my pic below. Also, look over at Sierratrading post, they had Cloudviel jackets a bunch of nice ones.
post #4 of 10
Here is a consideration.

I left the Navy years ago with an insulated flight suit that I could wear sitting still in the cold and be perfectly comfortable. Ride a snow mobile---probably good for that and cold weather motorcycle ride---perfect!

I tried to ski in it once---(now theres a visual for ya!) and I lost 37 pounds sweating my back side off since it was not very breathable.
post #5 of 10
Couple of other points to consider:

1. Jackets with a zip-in feature are less versatile than layering with the appropriate fleece or mid-layer best suited to the conditions of the day. Plus, you will not have to hassle with zipping the fleece in and out should conditions change.

2. Synthetic insulated alternatives intended to be comparable to down weigh more and, as mtlion pointed out, are not as versatile. Down has about a 3x warming advantage over synthetics on an ounce for ounce basis and is more breathable. However, if you get soaked through and the down gets wet, it loses its insulating advantages.

3. Layering, with a shell as the outer layer actually, gives you the most options because base and mid-layers come in a variety of different densities and thicknesses. Wear what will work best for the day. You can shed either the shell or fleece quickly if things warm up. An insulated jacket tends to limit you to wearing it or not.

4. There is down and there is down just like there are various quality synthetic insulated jackets. If you do decide to go with a down option, look for quality manufacturers like Marmot, Patagonia etc.

Since taste is also highly individual, maybe you should see what's on the net that you like and is priced right. My only real suggestion is that if you are going to wear the jacket on a daily basis, regardless of its composition, buy dark green or black so you will not have to wash it so often.

Good luck.
post #6 of 10
I have a really nice North Face (850 down fill) that is as warm as it gets. Really comfortable. Retail was something like $650, but I paid about $350 at a North Face outlet store in Maine about a year ago.
post #7 of 10
Check out cabela's.com. I bought a great, warm, water proof (gortex as I recall), breathable, with nice pocket flaps over the slash fronts and a convenitnt chech book or what-ever semi-in and interior pocket last season end (on sale then). Came in various sizes, which caught the tall catagory for me, but also had the reg. and XX sizes. Priced very sensably with a nice variety of colors.
post #8 of 10
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post
I have the Patagonia Rubicon jacket with 100grams of insulation. NOT DOWN It's VERY warm. Excellent pockets, pit zips and a great soft material that looks and feels like fabric. I am wearing it in my pic below. Also, look over at Sierratrading post, they had Cloudviel jackets a bunch of nice ones.
Thanks!

Actually, I just recieved the north face denali (the one every teenager on the planet has), and must say it is quite warm. But, I still may be looking for something to go on the outside of it as a full jacket. Would be nice if I could zip it in (I know layering is probably better), but this is more for everyday use, so I want it to be easy to put on/take off. So maybe, any warm north faces? I'm looking around on sites, just some north faces are so... dull looking.
post #9 of 10
What about The North Face Plan B Triclimate 3 in 1 jacket? It's both for skiing and everyday use. It comes with a zip in insulation. I've just got it recently and still thinking to keep it or to return. How durable those jackets are? is Marmot much better than TNF ?
post #10 of 10
Something really warm, not down, and not zip-in = Arcteryx Fission. There's a few models, with some being Gore-Tex, and some Windstopper shells, but the all have synthetic insulation and they're VERY warm.
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