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Does your gear influence your skiing style?

post #1 of 32
Thread Starter 
......or the other way around?

I am full of the ideas today....

7-8 years ago when I returned to skiing, I just wanted to get down the mountain safely and in warm stylish clothes and with skis that will be good enough for my eventual progression. However, with each purchase as the seasons passed I found myself buying higher and higher performance gear even when my skills did not warrant them....but in turn I found myself striving to do better and better to justify the purchases.

That being said, and as a follow up to how I feel like I am going to war when I ski, my ultra high performance gear and the aggressive styling the designers have imparted on them has impacted my skiing such that I strive to not just look the part but act it and even exceed it if possible (for those that remember my less than accepted ‘aggressive looking goggles’ thread, now you know, its a tool for my mind.) I have progressed in my skiing mostly due to me wanting to maximize the potential of my gear…if not for it, I would still be happy with just taking it easy down easy blues, as many are. The gear psyches me up, even the drawn out process of tuning makes me want to push those skis that much more when I get to he slopes.

So who else? Do you ski differently when you use different gear? Like, do you have your fast skiing jacket? Is there stuff you use when going to ski with the family and then others you use when alone because of the way it makes you feel psychologically? Warm and fuzzy inside (figuratively) or cold, hard and determined?

I guess asking if you ski differently with the skis you have chosen for the day is a given, since they are usually specific for their intended use, but lets include them as well since many of us have many overlaps in our quiver.

When I free ride with my GS skis, I never hesitate to throw them into a carve, but my all mountain carvers less so, even though I really know that they can handle much more than I could ever possibly dish out.
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post #2 of 32

Skiing differently

RR. The only time I let the geat dictate how I ski is when I put on a Race Bib.

Other than that: Which came lst the Mirror or the Image?

Actually I have never heard of anyone who feels/skis as you do. Interesting
post #3 of 32
No, that's not entirely true. Last gaper day we did some synchronized skiing while wearing fart bags and other assorted old stuff.

But, yeah other than that, you're right on.
post #4 of 32
I think it's the other way around. Your stuff should be influenced by your style.

I guess when I have my pack on, I'm in "explore" mode- no lodge needed so I hit the woods, back trails and find good chill spots- y'know kinda take my time to find things of interest I would've missed otherwise. When I leave it home I just friggin' rip all day.

But as for cracking into some new gear- I think that would be the most widely acknowledged form of gear stoke. Everybody goes all out with those new boards, boots and the like- you're just so fired up to try it you bring your A game, no doubt. Richie just still feels that way when it's not so new anymore. Good for you, bro...
post #5 of 32
Gear doesn't play a big part in my skiing. I ski alittle different to adjust to the type of skis. 188cm GS skis instead of 170cm SL. I tend to ski the conditions not the gear.
post #6 of 32
The only thing that influences how I ski are maybe my m103's. If I'm on them I usually don't turn much. Those skis really don't work very well for stuff like turning or going slow. Or even medium for that matter.
post #7 of 32
Style? What style?

I can ski with a Canadian, Italian, or PA accent tho.
post #8 of 32
I do tend to ski a little faster on the super gs and turn a little tighter on the slaloms, but that's about it.
post #9 of 32
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Originally Posted by Pete No. Idaho View Post

Actually I have never heard of anyone who feels/skis as you do. Interesting
Ditto dude! I get the "not seeing skiing the same way that I do" vibe from RR too. Jus' different I guess...
post #10 of 32
I let the conditions dictate my gear and skiing style (as long as I have a good snow report and assortment of gear in truck). If it's really cold and dry I'll bring some GS skis or carvers and ski fast:. If it has snowed a little I bring mid fats., snowed a lot :helidogs in the morning and mid fats for later. If it is warmer or I have other reason to expect bumps
I'll bring bump skis and hit the terrain park jumps if the bumps don't materialize.:
post #11 of 32
Absolutely!!! I have a pair of Stockli Scott Schmidts. Originally I had on some Marker TI 12.0 bindings...but I switched them out for a pair of G3 Targas. I didn't think that a binding change could have such an impact on my skiing, but, amazingly, my style is now completely different.
post #12 of 32
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Originally Posted by Milllah View Post
Absolutely!!! I have a pair of Stockli Scott Schmidts. Originally I had on some Marker TI 12.0 bindings...but I switched them out for a pair of G3 Targas. I didn't think that a binding change could have such an impact on my skiing, but, amazingly, my style is now completely different.
BBBBBBZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!! FOUL!:
post #13 of 32
Absolutely....


Teaching gear,
Kids gear
Grooming gear
Powder gear
Big Mountain gear
All day gear
1/2 day gear
Real Cold gear
Hot day gear..

Now....dont get me wrong..before I pull out the gear, I plan to ski the way I am going to ski that day....chicken.egg.
post #14 of 32
I don't exactly find that my choice of gear makes me actively ski differently, as I only have a single pair of skis, 1 hard shell jacket, 1 soft shell jacket, and then a bunch of layers. But I do have pretty agressive/expert gear and I do ski the same way.

What was brought to my attention this past season though, is that I supposedly ski like a French racer. One of my ski instructors at Snowmass (Sal at Steep Camp) called me Frenchie because he thought I looked like a French racer, and with Dynastar SL skis (made in France) a Millet jacket (French brand) and my poles way out ahead of me, I guess I appear French!

who knew...
post #15 of 32
I don't think so, like some above, I dress as weather/conditions dictate. I am a gear whore so I do have a a couple of different jackets and pants but they are different as far as H2O & Windproofness and warmth. I have different goggles but they are also weather dependant and of course, different skis. One helmet, one pair of boots. So I think the long answer would be I only dress according to need, not the other way around. How does the gear make you ski differently? Like are you more aggressive when wearing red, laid back in green and cautious in yellow?
post #16 of 32
Thread Starter 
Lol...you got my three ski jacket colors spot on.

Fast in red
Adventurous in camo-green
Laid back in yellow

In my speed suits I think I am Bode (if he lost all his senses).
post #17 of 32
you are an enigma wrapped in a riddle
post #18 of 32
RR you must be a total kid at heart. If you leave out your comments about justifying the cost, you sound like the kids when they are playing dress up to play a part. They manufacture the craziest gear just to get into character. They stay that way all day, add to it, improve upon it. The next day they are still working it. Endless. We're talking elementary aged boys here. Not sure it's ever outgrown.
post #19 of 32
Thread Starter 
Kid at heart is my goal....feel young, stay young.
post #20 of 32
This is true for me to a certain extent.

When I put on my ski school coat w/ PSIA pin, I find myself making a million tiny turns, giving condescending advice to all the incompetent skiers around me, and generally acting and skiing like I have a giant stick up my ass.
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post #22 of 32
I agree with those who stated that your skiing style affects your gear. If you are the type to go exploring in knee high powder, you are obviously going to have very different gear compared to someone who skis mainly on groomed icy race courses. Within each style there are various subdivisions (ex. within race style, you have sl, gs, etc) which all require different equipment and slight style changes.

If you want to change your style, I believe changing gear can help. I would think it would be much easier to change from the more skidded turn of western powder skiers to the high edge angle carves of eastern ice skiiers with a change to a sl or gs type ski. By changing your equimpent, you change the way your body interacts with the surface thus giving you a different style whether you like it or not. It may not change drastically, but it will get you in the right direction.
post #23 of 32
My skiing influences the gear I use. More, to the point, snow conditions, time of year and weather influence the gear I use.
E.G.:
Early/Late season touring = Legend 8000 w/ NX21
Powder/Soft snow incl. tours = BROckers w/ Dukes
Ice/Groomers = Super BROs w/ P18
Early and late season = Scot Schmidts w/ P18
post #24 of 32
interesting post, i have found people put way too much stock in $gear$. fact is , its only going to make a real significant difference if you're either end of the spectrum (either a novice or a pro{which 99.999% only dream of being}). give me the crappiest gear and i'll make the most of it. My point being, having $gear$ is nice, but it doesnt make you more of a skier. So it basically has no influence on me as a skier.
post #25 of 32
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Originally Posted by LLB9977 View Post
interesting post, i have found people put way too much stock in $gear$. fact is , its only going to make a real significant difference if you're either end of the spectrum (either a novice or a pro{which 99.999% only dream of being}). give me the crappiest gear and i'll make the most of it. My point being, having $gear$ is nice, but it doesnt make you more of a skier. So it basically has no influence on me as a skier.
So you like to ski in jeans, in rear-entry boots, on rentals?

Hey, if you enjoy that, more power to you. But I think the average skier will have much a better time in wind- and moisture-resistant clothes, appropriate safety gear, well-fitting boots, and well-maintained skis. None of the above have to be wildly expensive, but there is some correlation between cost and quality.

Also - gear h0ring is fun!
post #26 of 32
Maybe I am missing something, but if you put me on a pair of 200+cm downhill straight skis compared to a 165cm 11m radius sl ski, I am sure that my skiing will be vastly different as would almost everyone's. That is a bit of an extreme example but the same applies to subcategories of modern skis. I would not dare to take a pair of beat up twin tips down a rutted up race course the same way I would a freshly tuned race ski. Hell, just changing your edge bevels can drastically change how you approach a turn, which, after all, is all skiing is about.
post #27 of 32
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Originally Posted by Acrophobia View Post
So you like to ski in jeans, in rear-entry boots, on rentals?

Hey, if you enjoy that, more power to you. But I think the average skier will have much a better time in wind- and moisture-resistant clothes, appropriate safety gear, well-fitting boots, and well-maintained skis. None of the above have to be wildly expensive, but there is some correlation between cost and quality.

Also - gear h0ring is fun!
well, i think the title of the post was to the tune of "gear influencing skiing style". Which is not the same as Fun factor. I have never skied in Jeans, a have in Rear entry boots, and i must admit, it was just as enjoyable. IMO, alot of it is in peoples heads. gear makes a difference, but nowhere near to the extent as people think. I cant tell you how many times ive met some newbie on the chair who took the "ski experts" advice and got raped for a grand or more from the local ski shop when $300-400 would have been more than sufficient to get them started and enjoying the sport.
post #28 of 32
i was really happy when Atomic sent me a new pair of sl12 to replace my broken sl11.
post #29 of 32
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Originally Posted by LLB9977 View Post
well, i think the title of the post was to the tune of "gear influencing skiing style". Which is not the same as Fun factor. I have never skied in Jeans, a have in Rear entry boots, and i must admit, it was just as enjoyable. IMO, alot of it is in peoples heads. gear makes a difference, but nowhere near to the extent as people think. I cant tell you how many times ive met some newbie on the chair who took the "ski experts" advice and got raped for a grand or more from the local ski shop when $300-400 would have been more than sufficient to get them started and enjoying the sport.

this is off-topic but tech fabs like Wind proof, h20-proof, warmth or cooling properties make for a much improved skiing/riding experience. you don't hav to spend a lot. SAC, STP, BackCountry and many more have killer deals. Need ski's look right here, SierraJim, Dawg, whiteroom, Ptex1 and others offer great deals to Bears.
post #30 of 32
I dont think it matters how much it costs, but higher quality items can certainly give the opportunity to ski better. For example, if it is raining and you are wearing a poorly made jacket and are getting wet, you will not ski well. I do not care how good of a skier you are or what sponsor is watching you, if you are cold and wet you will not ski well. Now if you replace that piece of junk coat for a nicer coat that will keep you dry for a while, you will have fun and appear to be a much better skier. The only problem I have found is this unfortunate correlation between cost and quality. Hey, we cant have it all.
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