As long as we have wandered off-track for this thread, let me take you farther.
I was at Kirkwood this weekend...twice. I figured I'd go up top and poke around Big Jims in the summer.
Its still big, and without ropes I wouldn't want to risk down-climbing. This is all unconsolidated volcanic rock and talus.
Without any snow cushion, that is an near vertical 25 foot drop over rocks, to more rocks.
An easier descent down Ski School chute results in a talus slide for life.
From near the landing zone on Big Jims we see its actually a good 30 to 35 degree talus slope. Very tough to traverse in summer. I recall dislodging one boulder over a foot long and 8-inches in diameter that rolled and bounced 250 yards down the slope before coming to rest in a rock pile. So, not quite flat, but its all relative.
A more distant perspective, looking up the hill makes the slope look much gentler and reveals a cave in the rock below Big Jims chute. The flowers don't offer much to cushion a landing.
Landing zone debris. Anyone missing these goggles?
I descended cham, or at least I slid down it. Its a whole lot easier on skis in the snow, than to trust to luck your shoes will stop skidding before the next rock.
Where moguls rest for summer:
Coming and going is easier this way.