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Delaminated Tips Rossingol XC Skis

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
I recently move and left my lightweight backcountry skis bound under pressure in the closet for about 6 months. The top 12" has delaminated. They have a partial steel edge and have delaminated down to the steel edge.

Any suggestions on

1. Where to go to get them repaired? Concord, California REI?

or

2. How to repair?

For some reason, I am not allowed to post a picture of it.
post #2 of 19
If it were me, I'd simply epoxy and clamp them to something to maintain shape.

Which Rossi's? BC's?

You need to be a supporter to post pictures unless you have a 3rd party or other server to link to. HTH
post #3 of 19
Thread Starter 

Glade Runner

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Originally Posted by Alpinord View Post
If it were me, I'd simply epoxy and clamp them to something to maintain shape.

Which Rossi's? BC's?

You need to be a supporter to post pictures unless you have a 3rd party or other server to link to. HTH
Thanks,
I am new to forums. Is there a ski forum that has more Northern California members?
post #4 of 19

Snowpals

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Thanks,
I am new to forums. Is there a ski forum that has more Northern California members?
Snowpals is a Bay Area ski club...I don't recall them having as in depth a forum as here, but it is good for Bay Area get togethers and organizing rides to Tahoe.
post #5 of 19
Thread Starter 
It looks like they may be under warrantee even though it was due to me leaving under pressure.

I take it that Tahoe means the Sierras on this board? It was a little confusing when selecting ski area choices with only Tahoe and Southern California listed.
post #6 of 19
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It looks like they may be under warrantee even though it was due to me leaving under pressure.

I.

Unless you clamped the tips together flat there is no way storing skis clamped should cause delamination. Many rental skis hang from the tips all year.


If they can't be waranteed, mix up a big gob of epoxy, the good slow cure type and see what you can do. Epoxy can work miracles.
post #7 of 19
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by newfydog View Post
Unless you clamped the tips together flat there is no way storing skis clamped should cause delamination. Many rental skis hang from the tips all year.


If they can't be waranteed, mix up a big gob of epoxy, the good slow cure type and see what you can do. Epoxy can work miracles.

It was the only the nylon/velcro strap used for carrying that they were bound together with and standing upright in the closet for about 6 months. Not a lot of pressure. Too bad no pictures allowed.
post #8 of 19
Upload the pic onto picasa or similar and post a link.

Easy!
post #9 of 19
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Originally Posted by cmburch View Post
I recently move and left my lightweight backcountry skis bound under pressure in the closet for about 6 months. The top 12" has delaminated. They have a partial steel edge and have delaminated down to the steel edge.
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This part makes me ask:

What do you mean by 'delaminated'?

1. Have the plastic bases come away from the rest of the skis like a Ptex hangnail

or

2. Have the topsheets and some other part split away from the rest of the ski?

That the 'delamination' stopped at the 3/4 edge point makes me suspect #1.
post #10 of 19
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Too bad no pictures allowed.

No pictures allowed? What's that about?

post #11 of 19
Thread Starter 
Link to Pictures of delaminated tips.
http://picasaweb.google.com/cmburch3/Ski
post #12 of 19

Ptex coming off.

It's not the storage pressure.

It's the temperature and humidity cycling.

The steel edges act as both expansion anchors and moisture blockers at the edges, so nothing happened there.
post #13 of 19


From this image, it looks like simply cleaning and epoxying will resolve the issue, IMO.

(In the thread reply editor there are several icons along the top. One is for images which allows you to add the image's link. )

HTH
post #14 of 19
Thread Starter 
Thanks, I live in California so there is little humidity and the temperature is very constant - no extremes.

Oh, I see. You mean at some point in time moisture got in this area and then the temperature.

Thanks,

What is Ptex?
post #15 of 19
Ptex is the generic term used to describe the plastic base material of skis and snowboards....and repair products.
post #16 of 19
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Originally Posted by cmburch View Post
Oh, I see. You mean at some point in time moisture got in this area and then the temperature.

It's mostly relevant at this point in order to show that a quick and dirty fix will not solve it for you, you need something that will hold the base on and form an edge seal.

You will want to use an epoxy that has a long working time and is pretty liquid in its working state, and that fairly wets out everything under the clear base plastic.

Patience, steel wool to rough up and clean up the two surfaces, and clamps, lots of clamps, so that epoxy runs out as you work from the edges back towards the tips.

Fortunately, the damage is way in the front of the ski where you won't really notice the epoxy change the overall flex much.

Marine-grade polyurethane can be used to finish the sides, I've done that with kick & glide skis doomed to puddle & melt use before.
post #17 of 19
Thread Starter 
I took them to Marmot Mt Works in Berkeley. They sent them back to the manufacturer for repair. They think they are a warranty repair.
post #18 of 19
Thread Starter 
Strange. Rossingol just returned them to the shop without repair. I originally purchased them from Western Mountaineering in San Jose which was later somehow affiliated with Marmot Mountain Works Berkeley and Washington. Marmot took care of it for free. I did most of my business with this company over REI for kayak, XC, and backpacking supplies since it had better gear that fit my needs. Thanks for the help. I may switch back to Fischer for my light touring needs on my next purchase.
post #19 of 19
Holy delamination Batman! Dude that looks like a manufacturing defect to me.....contact the manufacturer yourself dont blame yourself at all because those things are abviously not properly assembled.
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