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Poll Results: Do you support the proposed 60/65 MPH National Speed Limit

Poll expired: Aug 11, 2008  
  • 16% (10)
    Yes, 60 MPH, 65 in rural areas, is fast enough and will save fuel.
  • 74% (46)
    No, I don't support any national speed limit.
  • 8% (5)
    I'd go further, a 55 MPH national speed limit.
  • 1% (1)
    I don't care one way or another.
62 Total Votes  
post #121 of 130
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Originally Posted by snofun3 View Post
We'd save even more if we used trains instead of dreadfully inefficient trucks.
Maybe that should be changed, but in the mean time little things add up.

I still thing that cutting useage now has already and will in the future help bring down the price of gas. What's more important, it will reduce the $$$ going out of our econony.
post #122 of 130

Little things

Tire pressure checks at rest stops, with government grants to staff an employee to make it easy for travelers.
post #123 of 130
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Originally Posted by steveturner View Post
Experts like the American Trucking Association who make their living with transportation support a 65mph national speed limit for all vehicles and a 68 mph govenor restriction on all trucks. Estimated diesel savings, at least 27%. Not bad for something we could do tomorrow for the price of some large "65" decals. Think how many petro dollars we would keep in the USA.
From Wikipedia, about the last National speed limit:

The law was widely disregarded by motorists. Most states subversively opposed the law, ranging from proposing deals for exemption from it to minimizing speeding penalties.

This cap was intended to reduce gasoline consumption by 2.2% in response to the 1973 oil crisis. However, net fuel savings were calculated by the United States Department of Transportation at 1%, and independent studies found savings as low as half of one percent.



Apparently there are differences of opinion about how effective it would be, And the cost isn't just the price of some large "65" decals, it's the cost of all the wasted time resulting from driving slower than necessary. But as long as we are talking about laws preventing me from doing things I want to do, how about a law preventing others from driving SUVs, or better yet, how about a law preventing trucks from using the left lane?

BK
post #124 of 130
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Originally Posted by bunion View Post

Communism is a system that has been proven time and time again to be an extremely inefficent economic and government system.
What is inefficient is the idea that government knows the value of things better than the market. Any industry that makess huge profits will attract new investment. Windfall profits taxes will just drive that investment overseas, hardly the result anyone wants for the energy business.
Once you start taxing windfall oil profits, every other industry is at risk as well. On a percentage basis, the return on investment on my business is probably far greater than Exxon Mobil's. Should I pay a windfall profits tax as well?

BK
post #125 of 130
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Originally Posted by Paul Jones View Post
Tire pressure checks at rest stops, with government grants to staff an employee to make it easy for travelers.
"government grants" = (MORE) tax $. Thanks anyway. Let travelers check it themselves.
post #126 of 130
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Originally Posted by Paul Jones View Post
Truckers are already adjusting their speed to keep costs down.
So apparently there is no need for a law.

BK
post #127 of 130
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Originally Posted by Atomicman View Post
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I guarantee you my car gets better mileage in 6th gear at 70 MPH then 4 or 5th at 55MPH. And some new cars even have 7 speed trannies. I just can't tool along in my car at 55 in 6th gear. Have you driven a car geared for the old 55 mph days? Miserable on the freeway!
I call BS on that. The aero load increases as the speed squared, and the power requirent increases as the cube. You need about 60% more energyy and double the power to overcome wind resistance at 70 mph compared to 55. Those are big numbers compared to whatever inefficiency is added by being in a sub-optimal gear. If you have a 6 speed, you can probably find a nearly optimal gear at any speed.

BK
post #128 of 130
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Originally Posted by Bode Klammer View Post
From Wikipedia, about the last National speed limit:

The law was widely disregarded by motorists. Most states subversively opposed the law, ranging from proposing deals for exemption from it to minimizing speeding penalties.

This cap was intended to reduce gasoline consumption by 2.2% in response to the 1973 oil crisis. However, net fuel savings were calculated by the United States Department of Transportation at 1%, and independent studies found savings as low as half of one percent.


Apparently there are differences of opinion about how effective it would be, And the cost isn't just the price of some large "65" decals, it's the cost of all the wasted time resulting from driving slower than necessary. But as long as we are talking about laws preventing me from doing things I want to do, how about a law preventing others from driving SUVs, or better yet, how about a law preventing trucks from using the left lane?

BK
AND...like I said before those figures are based on 70's automotive technology, cars nowadays are much, much more efficient and aerodynmaic, so the savings would be even less.

I think the only real savings is in acceleration (accelerate hard and your fuel gauge will sweep as quickly as the speedo), once you get to cruising speed, its all good.
post #129 of 130
Here's a better solution:
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/08/07/s...-strike-strik/

I'd rather drive a Yugo at 80 than an SLK at 55.

BK
post #130 of 130
speed limits are all about revenue enhancement disguised in a cloud of do-good-ism
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