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post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
Hi yall
i just got in a new set of Salomon Foils for this up coming year. However they need bindings. I have never owned twin tips before and need some input bindings that would work well. The skis measure 182 tall and 87 in the center. I am six foot five and 155 lbs. I would consider my self a "level 8" skier if that helps.
thanks guys
post #2 of 22
First, let me encourage you to to eat more. You will find that most binding manufacturers have loyal followings. If you are not skiing anything with major drops or really big jumps, my guess is that any solid 12-din binding would be fine (although you will need to check this out very carefully). I have skis with flat and system bindings (matched specifically to rails on the ski) that are from several manufacturers (Marker, Salomon and Rossignol/Look/Dynastar). Generally, I prefer to stay away from Markers, but some people love them and swear by them. My preference these days is for the Salomon STH 12 (note that Salomon is coming out with a 14-din version STH binding for 2008-09). Rossi's 12 din or higher bindings would be fine as well (they are noted for having a high amount of allowable heel movement before releasing). IMHO, either of the 12-16 DIN bindings are likely okay (be sure to check your DIN carefully before selecting). As for brake sizes, a 90 width will be fine. Some narrower widths of brakes can be bent at the shop or on your own. Don't go wider than the 90 brake though.
post #3 of 22
Thread Starter 
Wow thanks for the info! Yeah im only a junior in high school so im still growing. I do like the idea of system bindings do to the fact that my feet are growing still. (fifteen size feet are not favorable) I have looked into markers and some of the salomon line up. I know i will probably not need a din of 12 or higher. Wondering why you stay away from markers?
thanks again for the help
post #4 of 22
Definitely don't go for a cheap binding, Salomon Z10/12 namely, and bindings made for lightweight skiers. Because you are still growing, you should put on some more lb's therefore raising the demand on your binding and its din. If you do want a salomon binding, go with the sth 12.
post #5 of 22
Some models of Markers are disparaged for pre-release issues (you can use the search function on this site and find out more). With the type of ski that you have, you want a flat binding and the STH 12 would be a good fit. System bindings are sold with the skis that they fit on. A go-between is something like the Tyrolia Railflex. Just so you don't think that I'm all negative about Markers, the Marker Jester (and the upcoming 12-din version of the same... the Baron? can't remember) are good but better suited for wider skis. I have STH 12s on a couple different skis and really like them.
post #6 of 22
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by MSUBozangelas View Post
Definitely don't go for a cheap binding, Salomon Z10/12 namely, and bindings made for lightweight skiers. Because you are still growing, you should put on some more lb's therefore raising the demand on your binding and its din. If you do want a salomon binding, go with the sth 12.
so just so i get this straight the Z10/12 are BAD choices?
I have looked into both the duke and jester however they are rather pricy. I dont see spending well over the price of what i paid for on the skis for bindings, especially on a high school budget. Skis were only 300 duke/jester around 450.
I do like the railflex system that you can het from head, also like their mojo's.
thanks for the input guys
post #7 of 22
From my experience with the Z10/12 they were not made for aggressive skiers, but others may have better experience. Jesters are $330 over at al's ski barn, but Griffon's could be good for you, they're only $230.
post #8 of 22
Thread Starter 
Great ill look into those Griffons!
post #9 of 22
That's it... the Griffon is the lower din equivalent of the Jester. For what it's worth, Volkl is putting the wide bindings on some of it's system skis for next year (the Grizzly for sure and the AC 50 perhaps?). The pricing of $230 seems reasonable for the Griffon. As for the Z12, I have it on a pair of skis that I use a great deal. I like the light weight. The problem is that they have a plastic track on the heel that is prone to cracking (in some cases, I have heard that it wasn't as a result of intense use). I haven't had any problems with them but prefer the STH's reinforcements in that area. I'm not sure that the Griffon works on a ski as narrow as what you have. Seems to me that it's best suited for 90+ width?
post #10 of 22
Cheap bindings go perfectly with ear-muffs and one-piece ski suits!
post #11 of 22
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Originally Posted by no soup 4 u View Post
Hi yall,
I am six foot five and 155 lbs.

You don`t need bindings, you need cheesburgers. Eat boy, eat!
post #12 of 22
Thread Starter 
hmmm
Is the Griffon a new product for Marker this year?
Im trying to research it and it is not on their site.
post #13 of 22
Yes it's a new model for 2009.

You should avoid any system binding if you have sz 15 feet, the adjustment range of most is going to be maxed out, some jigs for mounting may not work. I'd take them to the shop that is going to do your service work and work with the tech there, bring your boots.
post #14 of 22
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
Yes it's a new model for 2009.

You should avoid any system binding if you have sz 15 feet, the adjustment range of most is going to be maxed out, some jigs for mounting may not work. I'd take them to the shop that is going to do your service work and work with the tech there, bring your boots.
Yeah no matter what i end up doing i will go to Greenwoods. I dont trust anybody but them with my skis.
post #15 of 22
I know your pain no soup....Im 6'4" and have a size 15......what size are you measured in mondo point??? We are just receiving are 09' shipment of Griffons and let me tell you they are some good looking binders.
post #16 of 22
Thread Starter 
Not so sure what mondo point is, but my ski boots are 30.5 if thats what your asking.
yeah im a fan of those Griffons and the price is right too.
post #17 of 22
Alright so your BSL should be right around 345mm or so.....I was just curious I have to downsize from a 31.5 to get anything decent.

Definately check out the Griffons for the price they are hard to beat if you are stuck on getting 09' gear.
post #18 of 22
Thread Starter 
na i dont really care about the latest and greatest. My new skis are last years stock.
post #19 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alberto View Post
The problem is that they have a plastic track on the heel that is prone to cracking (in some cases, I have heard that it wasn't as a result of intense use).
I had Z12's too, and thats exactly what happened, but i'd probably blame it on overall, more intense use.
post #20 of 22
Almost got the Z12s but caved for the Mojo 15s as per a great deal. Check Gear Swap, I'm sure you could find something someone has lying around that would work for your skiing and your pocket.
post #21 of 22
You can actually find a ski boot that fits? Wow!

Another vote for the STH12, etc. Nice binding.

However, with that size boot, you don't put much leverage on a binding and probably don't have a din much higher than around a 6-7. You might be just fine on a Z12.

I'm also a fan of the (much) older 997 composite, if you can find a pair on ebay.
post #22 of 22
+1 to what Highway Star said. I've got some low milage 977 composites that work well. I've also got some Driver 877s that are just as good as the day they were made. But, the 877s are heavier, Either of thiose can frequently be had on eBay for well under $50.
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