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Please help me decide which used skiis to get

post #1 of 23
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Hi all,
I'm a male, 6'3", 180lbs, 38yo, I think I'm a pretty solid 7 skier (maybe approaching 8, or at least I hope to this season).
I've skiied since I was a kid (mostly around California), but took a hiatus for about 15 years and got back into it last year in Chile. Lately (still in Chile) I've mostly skiied Valle Nevado, but I have a trip coming up to Termas de Chillan on the August 1. Not into racing, deep powder or off trail, yet.

Rather than continue to throw away money on rentals, I thought I'd pick up my first kit in many years (I don't even rememebr what the stuff was that I used to use). The rentals I've been using appear to be Salomon Scream 180cm (or maybe even 190) and worked fine.

I can't afford a whole new kit in time for the trip, so I'm looking to buy some decent boots in a shop this week, and want to pick up some used skiis off ebay for now and hopefully get some thing better in the off season for next year.

Of all my options on there, (mostly VERY old stuff or well out of my budget) I've narrowed it down to the following:

2007? Rossignol RX World Cup 184cm + Rossignol Race 155 Axial Pivotante bindings ~$155

volkl g3 "vertigo" 190cm + salomon s712 bindings ~$150 (guy says they're only 2 seasons old - but aren't these skis from like 2003?)

All claim to be in excellent condition & I've read a couple of guides on what to look for when checking out used skis. Assuming that they are all really in "excellent condition" what would you guys recomend?
post #2 of 23
randini, welcome to Epic.

If you absolutely must buy one of those...

Rossignol.

More grip, more components to shift to your next skis, better resale value, more fun with less overlap if you decide to keep them after you get all-mountain or off-piste skis.

PS, good luck and be sure to post a trip report.
post #3 of 23
Have a look at Elan888's ... they appear to be a nice all mountain ski.

post #4 of 23
I had a pair of G3s in 2001. 190 is huge for that ski. I'd pass on that one.
post #5 of 23
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Originally Posted by comprex View Post
randini, welcome to Epic.

If you absolutely must buy one of those...

Rossignol.

More grip, more components to shift to your next skis, better resale value, more fun with less overlap if you decide to keep them after you get all-mountain or off-piste skis.

PS, good luck and be sure to post a trip report.
Thanks, that's kind of the way I was leaning, but I've heard so many good comments on the G3's.
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Originally Posted by KL. View Post
Have a look at Elan888's ... they appear to be a nice all mountain ski.

I looked, thanks for the tip. I'll look closer post season, since they're WAY out of my budget right now, unless I cut corners on the boots (which I don't really want to do).

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Originally Posted by stevesmith7 View Post
I had a pair of G3s in 2001. 190 is huge for that ski. I'd pass on that one.
After reading a little more about them, that's what I was afraid of. Man how skis have changed during my hiatus - I remember before I wouldn't look at anything under 210.

Thanks to all of you for the comments.
post #6 of 23
I bet you could grab a used pair of used K2 Public Enemy for around your budget. Heck, at the end of the season new ones without bindings were only $200. A much better budget ski than what you're looking at. Summer is not a great time for ski deals on ebay in my experience. Wait until early fall when people start thinking about upgrading and want to dump their older stuff but most buyers aren't out yet. Post a WTB over on TGR. Those guys let older used stuff go at good prices all the time. Good luck.
post #7 of 23
I get the impression he's still in Chile; US discount prices may be here but not there.
post #8 of 23
My impression is that the Rossi RX would be an o.k. ski. Not spectacular at anything, but it works reasonably well for a large variety of skiers, as you don't have to be spot on to make it work. The complimentary 155s seem a little too short, but I suppose you will want a short turner to go along with that GS ski, and beggars can't be choosers.
post #9 of 23
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Originally Posted by stevesmith7 View Post
I bet you could grab a used pair of used K2 Public Enemy for around your budget. Heck, at the end of the season new ones without bindings were only $200. A much better budget ski than what you're looking at. Summer is not a great time for ski deals on ebay in my experience. Wait until early fall when people start thinking about upgrading and want to dump their older stuff but most buyers aren't out yet. Post a WTB over on TGR. Those guys let older used stuff go at good prices all the time. Good luck.
I am in Chile and it's mid high season right now. Being a devloping country, import fees & shipping usually makes for unfavorable prices here on goods that are "specialty items" targeted more towards middle/upper class citizens. This includes surf gear, laptop computers, nicer cars and of course ski gear (among other things). OTOH services are cheap. For example a 1 hour bus ride from downtown Santiago up to the slopes costs under $20.
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I get the impression he's still in Chile; US discount prices may be here but not there.
That's right. Plus, see my comment above about prices here. Your summer is our winter, so yea, US Discount prices on ski gear deosn't work out the same.
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
My impression is that the Rossi RX would be an o.k. ski. Not spectacular at anything, but it works reasonably well for a large variety of skiers, as you don't have to be spot on to make it work. The complimentary 155s seem a little too short, but I suppose you will want a short turner to go along with that GS ski, and beggars can't be choosers.
OK, but better than a pair or rental beginner skis I hope? That's how they came. And yea, as you said, beggars can't be choosers. Knowing I wanted to get some decent boots, that wasn't leaving me much in the budget for skis. Could you exapnd on the 155s being too short? The skis are 184cm and the 155 refers to bidings being Rossi Race 155. Sorry, although I can ski OK, but am a total n00b when it comes to gear. In the past I was always the "just strap whatever there is on my feet so I can get out on there" type. Now, trying to learn what would suit me best has been a royal PITA.

Like I've mentioned, I had already decided to buy some "decent" boots based on advice I've seen over & over that boots are pretty much the most important. I ended up buying a brand new pair of Tecnica Vento 10 for under $300 (after a 50% discount + a pair of Killy ski socks & a boot bag thrown in). They were one of the only 4 pairs of boots I was able to find in my size (It ain't easy finding US size 13 footware in a country where the average foot size is about 8 or 8.5). But when I put them on they felt sooooooo comfortable.

In the 3 shops I wnet to, unfortunatley the only skis on sale right now seemed like more beginer type models or banged up ex-rentals/demos and were still more expensive than the Rossy RX's. So I went to take a look at them today and as it turns out, they are almost brand new. The underside is clean, not a single scratch. The rails seem sharp and not overly ground down, there were no signs of delaminating and they seemed plenty flexible & springy. The top surface has some minor scratches, but it like seems cosmetic damage. Bottom line, I ended up buying them.

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I also picked up some Nexxt poles that, on sale, ended up costing less than what the socks would have cost me.

Hopefully I'll be able to get out on or before this weekend & try it all out in Valle Nevado. It's raining here now, so that means new snow up there!!

Come September/October I WILL hit the post season sales & get more skis (right now I'm thinking of some decent all mountains - maybe some 6 stars if I seem them at a decent price). That gives me plenty of time to catch up on what's out there. Expect to see me again, if that's OK.
post #10 of 23
Also, have a look at Fischer Watego84's ... they, also, appear to be a nice all mountain ski.

post #11 of 23
Thread Starter 
Will do. Thanks for the tip.
post #12 of 23
Don't forget to have the bindings remounted.
post #13 of 23
Thread Starter 
Check. They're going in for remounting tomorrow.
post #14 of 23
Have a look at the Armada ARV and Armada ARW ... http://archive.skireviews.co.uk/en/a...rv-review.html ... and also these Armada AR6, Armada JP Vs. Julien, Armada Pipe Cleaner, Armada T-Hall.

Very Impressive stats ... no wonder people like Armada's.

post #15 of 23
And these Volkl unlimited ac3Volkl unlimited ac3, and one of the Salomon Teneighty's ...

post #16 of 23
Forgot these K2 Skis Public Enemy ...

post #17 of 23
The thing about the Rossi RX is it has a relatively long turn radius, and unless you already know how to get big tipping angles and work a ski it won't help you much, but if you know how to work a ski it will be loads of fun going fast, just not as much fun as more demanding hard-core gs skis. The short 155s would be too limiting on their own (too short a turn radius to arc bigger turns and not stable at speed), but as you have the RX to compliment it you should be ok. Just bring both pair to the hill and change up.
post #18 of 23
Ghost, the 155s are the bindings on the RX. Here's hoping there's enough room on that plate for the size 13 Tecnica Ventos.
post #19 of 23
Atomic Snoop Daddy also looks good ...

post #20 of 23
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Originally Posted by randini View Post
+ Rossignol Race 155 Axial Pivotante bindings
Must of been a late night when I read the original post!
What I said about the skis stands. The thing that makes the skis less than ideal is that they will require speed to work, and are biased towards longer turns and harder snow. If you could find something with a shorter turn radius, you could make more turns per run and improve faster. On the other hand this drawback for most recreational skiers is what makes the skis affordable for you. If you have some tipping skills already, and a half decent hill to ski on, then get them.
post #21 of 23
Ha...that's alot of race ski right there. Good luck with that.

Even if you don't like the skis, the bindings themselves are awesome and worth $150 here in the states. If you end up getting something more for freeskiing, transfer the bindings, even if you have to bend the brakes. (see TGR forums)
post #22 of 23
What is the best side cut for Chile, Portillo specifically? Will my RX8 be too narrow?
post #23 of 23
For once, Highway Star and I agree. Great bindings, possibly worth what you paid for the skis on their own. Enjoy.
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