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post #1 of 19
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Here's my trip report for the Lake Placid Freestyle Center.

My kids gave as a father's day gift, a day at the training ctr. We went up last Friday, Abbey, and wife. We left at 8am and got there around 10:15am - plenty early for a shortened day.

I signed two forms and headed over to the trampolines with my coach, Richie. I was working in rotation with 4 other athletes, the oldest was about 15. I got on about 5 times and got better each time. I recall being pretty good at tramp in the old days, but let's face it, 25 yrs is quite a while.

We practiced an open stance on take off, to a close stance in the air. We did front flips and 360's and he offered lots of help for transfering the skill to the snow.

When we flipped, coach used a soft mat which he shoved onto the tramp to "kill" the bounce. It worked pretty well.

Lunch.

Then to the ramp. First, climbed up a little ways to run into the jump. 2nd run at the ramp brought my skis up past the lip.

Climbed up and did my first run. I over rotated and went way forward and entered the water as if it was a dive. That's not what you are supposed to do.

Forgot to mention - I was scared, no doubt about it.

Second jump I landed on my feet, but weak.

Third jump, I over rotated again, only this time not enough to dive and landed on my face, chest, hitting real hard. It was a good bang over all and my head hurt, but I was able to pull myself together and slowly move to the side of the pool. I did not realize my state of awareness so when I spoke to the coach on the way back up, not much registered.

At the top for my 4th run, there were about 4 kids ready to go. I was confused about going upright or upside down. When they went they flipped, but I was doing upright only. Their runs were confussing me. My 4th run landed nicely and felt good.

Two more runs and the confussion got worse. I was both scared and confussed and had no concentration. It was an uncomfortable experience, good focus is helpful when jumping. Lightning came in and everyone got down and took cover.

I was relieved to stop, yet I still didn't understand what was bugging me. I was not able to focus my attention but didn't realize it.

Said good bye to Richie and thanked him and headed down the northway. I was resting with my seat back and could hear Abbey telling Maureen that I sounded like I was on drugs and that I was "lupey". Thoughts were bubbling up and made the actual day blend into a dream. I tried to figure out what was real and what was dream and what was made up the whole way home. It was better that I didn't drive.

On Saturday I went to the hospital to have a CT scan. The doctor, who has a keen sense of the obvious, said that I have a concussion. She warned me about the second hit syndrome and told me to take it easy. This was worth while information even though I was already taking it easy.

It's Monday and my body hurts from the balls of my feet (tramp) to my head. I am still hazy, even more that usual. I have a black eye, above and below. It's that car accident feeling. Keep in mind, I have had quite a few concussions over the years.

It was still fun and am glad that I went. Once my thoughts are clear, more will be revealed, I am sure.

There is a vid of the jumps that I will post as soon as I learn how. The quality is poor.
post #2 of 19
Yikes, hope you're feeling better soon! I'm pretty sure I'm way too much a wimp for that.

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She warned me about the second hit syndrome and told me to take it easy.
Does this mean that on doctor's orders, you're not allowed to run into anyone this coming season?
post #3 of 19
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Does this mean that on doctor's orders, you're not allowed to run into anyone this coming season?
There IS a silver lining.


Take it easy bud. Did you happen to get any pictures?

Richie is quite the motor mouth isn't he?
post #4 of 19
Really looking forward to seeing the video. If you need help posting/hosting it, let me know.
Glad your head is still in tact.
You know this means the stories can be bigger and better and no one can prove otherwise!!!
post #5 of 19
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I do have video that Abbey took, however she did not use the zoom. I am pathetic in the film. But I plan to show it anyway. Was going to post vid on YouTube then get it to show up here some how.

Phil, he does like to talk. Even when my eyes were rolling around in my head. I was so nervous at first and confussed later that I couldn't tap into his coaching at all.
post #6 of 19
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Does this mean that on doctor's orders, you're not allowed to run into anyone this coming season?
It does, but I wouldn't get in the way.:
post #7 of 19
Nice trip report. My son is going up there next week - his 2nd time (age 11). I doubt I would have the nads to do it myself. I give you credit.

I never thought you could get a concussion from impacting water. Live and learn. Hope you get better.
post #8 of 19
How's the noggin Paul?
post #9 of 19
Wow, how did I miss this TR??? Dude, I'm very jealous. Not for the head injury of course, but you know what I mean... Hope you're feeling better!
post #10 of 19
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How's the noggin Paul?
Not good. It's been 2 1/2 weeks and I still ain't right. Going to see the doctor tomorrow. Pressure, distraction and quiet pain are persisting and even getting worse. I feel ill and a little nervous.

After the crash I also developed a recurrence of back pain so I went to my specialist and he injected steroids into my spin. Maybe that'll help, or maybe that's adding to the problem.

Haven't been back to the gym since the crash. I need to keep up on my conditioning.

But thank you for asking, TC.
post #11 of 19
I can't be sure since I didn't hear the impact, but I suspect it was the 1 and a quarter that caused the most harm. When I went to Freestyle Camp we had to work two or three days on the tramp before they let us go near the ramp. I don't know if I would have tried it day one, and I was 16 at the time.

I hope you are feeling better. Let's stick with old skool upright tricks
post #12 of 19
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So, I have some vids of this foolish endevor. The footage is weak. The first one is sideways. The only way I could get these to the site is by linking to youtube. If anyone can make it so the video is in the thread that would be nice.

Again, this is from early July at Lake Placid. I got up on the ramp and realized that I was really scared. The idea is to land flat, which is not how I do it on the hill. To be honest, I had no business being there. It was my first time so maybe I could blame some of it on that, however right now I would be reluctant to go back due to the after effects of the concussion.

http://www.youtube.com/user/buzzj0nes

When I jump I tend to lean into the lip. This is too big a lip for that. Richie kept telling me to stand up off the ramp and avoid the crouch position. He had a guy do a spread eagle for me. I would have done one too, except my feet will only spread apart about a foot or so That piece of coaching was after the hit so not much registered.

You can see how my landings are all too far forward. When you land flat the feeling is pleasant, soft and easy. I'd say only one of my landings was like that.

I can't actually tell which jump caused the problem. Probably the one with my hands up and me going forward.

None of my jumps was I able to really launch, due to fear. Most (all) of the other jumper seemed to ride the jump - they let the jump do all of the work.

I am embarassed to post these but I said I would. Hope you can see it.

bz
post #13 of 19
Paul,

There is nothing to be embarrassed about. There are many "big talkers" here that are much younger than you wouldn't get up on that ramp. I am not too proud to say, that if it wasn't for knowing that you were behind me that day at MRG, I wouldn't have dropped that cliff. You are an inspiration to me and and my skiing. Pat yourself on the back and stand tall.
post #14 of 19
I agree with Phil. Nice job Paul! Thanks for posting them.
post #15 of 19
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Paul,

There is nothing to be embarrassed about. There are many "big talkers" here that are much younger than you wouldn't get up on that ramp. I am not too proud to say, that if it wasn't for knowing that you were behind me that day at MRG, I wouldn't have dropped that cliff. You are an inspiration to me and and my skiing. Pat yourself on the back and stand tall.
What he said, (except the part about MRG, I wasn't there)
I'm looking at the vid, thinking, Holy Crap!!! That ramp is intimidating!!!

Kudos for doin it!
post #16 of 19
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That ramp is intimidating!!!
Quite the kicker

You are all very kind Phil, I will still jump off a cliff. I think that the only reason you jumped off the cliff that day at MRG is because you were afraid I'd run into you if you didn't. Smart man
post #17 of 19
Paul....

I told you it would be an experience.....

One of the purposes of my doing this event (twice so far) is to get used to the height and lots and lots of jumps.

I would highly encourage you to go back....take it slow. Once fear is removed.....you can start enjoying.


For anyone that has not done this or similar.....the jump Paul goes off is bad enough...anyone who jumps that middle ramp is just plain CRAZY....you cannot imagine how crazy that thing is until you walk it.
post #18 of 19
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Quite the kicker

You are all very kind Phil, I will still jump off a cliff. I think that the only reason you jumped off the cliff that day at MRG is because you were afraid I'd run into you if you didn't. Smart man
Self preservation, either jump or be knocked over.
post #19 of 19
Paul;

You DA MAN!

My Mama says "If your friends jumped off a cliff would you?

"Heck Ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

You can now cross water ramp off your bucket list
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