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I've been looking into getting a pair of race skis for the Beer League racing I do on Tues. nights at Sundown in Connecticut. I know that the Atomic LT & ST line of race skis (Blue & White topsheet) are softer than Atomic's main offering, the GS12 & SL12 line. I thought they might be perfect for a 45 year old guy who races 5 or 6 times a year just for fun.

A salesclerk at a local ski shop that I respect told me the LT12 from 2006-07 in a 176 cm length is a woman's race ski. As I said, I know its a softer flexing race ski than their main race ski line. But are they really designed & made for women? I've seen lots of men on these skis over the years. I know I should demo, demo, demo but it would be great to hear from someone that knows these skis.
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Originally Posted by madskier6 View Post
I've been looking into getting a pair of race skis for the Beer League racing I do on Tues. nights at Sundown in Connecticut. I know that the Atomic LT & ST line of race skis (Blue & White topsheet) are softer than Atomic's main offering, the GS12 & SL12 line. I thought they might be perfect for a 45 year old guy who races 5 or 6 times a year just for fun.

A salesclerk at a local ski shop that I respect told me the LT12 from 2006-07 in a 176 cm length is a woman's race ski. As I said, I know its a softer flexing race ski than their main race ski line. But are they really designed & made for women? I've seen lots of men on these skis over the years. I know I should demo, demo, demo but it would be great to hear from someone that knows these skis.
They are women's skis. The men who ski on them are girly men.

May I interest you in a pair of soft Volkl GS skis?
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Stockli SC's ..... ?
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Stockli SC's ..... ?
Too soft. Those things are noodles.
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madskier6. Hello, I purchased a pair of Atomic LT12s in the 176 length. I weigh 180lbs and have had a blast on these skis. They have performed great at both Nastar and at Masters Race clinics. I followed the advise of Sierra Jim, another regular Epic poster.These skis are not only for women, but can be enjoyed by lighter weight men and less experienced or older racers.Try to demo a pair if you are able. I have found the LTs to be stiff enough but agree that the STs were to soft for my weight.Good luck. James.
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Don't get me started on "Atomeek" ..... "race" ......

The man said Beer League ... not balls to the walls FIS .... :
post #7 of 14
For casual beer league racing on small hills these will probably be just what you are looking for unless you weigh way over 200lbs. Even then given that you race 5 or 6 times a year they would probably be fine. You will be able to bend the ski into a better arc at lower speeds maintaining a better carve as you pass other casual racers with their full up race stock skis who are skidding around gates because they can't bend them. The LTs will also be good for NASTAR.
I use race stock skis but that is because I got at least 27 masters training days in last year at Abasin and are just now getting competent on them. My 180 cm Volkl race stock skis are technically the womens size. I rarely see even the really fast masters racers on any thing longer than 185 and many are using the so called womens sizes. I see some of the lighter guys on the LTs in my leagues also.
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For casual beer league racing on small hills these will probably be just what you are looking for unless you weigh way over 200lbs. Even then given that you race 5 or 6 times a year they would probably be fine. You will be able to bend the ski into a better arc at lower speeds maintaining a better carve as you pass other casual racers with their full up race stock skis who are skidding around gates because they can't bend them. The LTs will also be good for NASTAR.
I use race stock skis but that is because I got at least 27 masters training days in last year at Abasin and are just now getting competent on them. My 180 cm Volkl race stock skis are technically the womens size. I rarely see even the really fast masters racers on any thing longer than 185 and many are using the so called womens sizes. I see some of the lighter guys on the LTs in my leagues also.
All Volkls pre 2008-2009 excluding the 07-08 WC skis are unisex. The only sex specific Volkls out are the new ones, differing in radius (175-180,23m; 185+,27). The only difference in them is the radius of the ski, the flex is all the same unless specified by a WC model, which is a much stiffer flex available in most sizes, including the "women's" size skis. I have both flexes in my quiver, and at 145lbs I can bend the racestock flex quite easily, and I am starting to be able to flex the WC flexes.
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Rise to the top,
As I said "womens size ", not women specific. I recall Volkl 180 was a reccomended womens size. Kaylin Richardson showed up on a borrowed pair of 180s for one of the benefit races at Abasin last year. (Very nice young lady by the way). Is the WC designation new this year and if so how are the markings different? I have 06 and 07 GS but this years 165 slalom. Sorry for the off topic question.
Back to the thread and Madskier6. When I first started league racing 4 years ago (i'm 51 now and 165lbs) I used Atomic sx11 cheater GS skis and I then progressed to soft recreational Dynastar GS skis and did pretty well on the Dynastars. Last year, the first few races I ran with my race stock skis I did poorly. I then started more serious Masters training. The point being that if you are a casual middle aged racer a softer flexing ski (without too short a sidecut) that is easy to bend will be faster since you are not skidding below the gate. If you get more serious and start training then a more serious GS ski would be appropriate.
post #10 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thanks very much for the advice. You confirmed what I had suspected. I'll be doing real casual beer league racing on a small hill in CT. Racing 5 or 6 times all year. Sounds like these would be good skis to start out with & then if I get serious about speed & competition down the road, I can buy a more demanding race stock GS ski.
post #11 of 14
The generally available atomic GS12PB is a little softer than a full on race "stock" ski. It has a 19 m radius too(not 26).
post #12 of 14
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Rise to the top,
As I said "womens size ", not women specific. I recall Volkl 180 was a reccomended womens size. Kaylin Richardson showed up on a borrowed pair of 180s for one of the benefit races at Abasin last year. (Very nice young lady by the way). Is the WC designation new this year and if so how are the markings different? I have 06 and 07 GS but this years 165 slalom. Sorry for the off topic question.
Back to the thread and Madskier6. When I first started league racing 4 years ago (i'm 51 now and 165lbs) I used Atomic sx11 cheater GS skis and I then progressed to soft recreational Dynastar GS skis and did pretty well on the Dynastars. Last year, the first few races I ran with my race stock skis I did poorly. I then started more serious Masters training. The point being that if you are a casual middle aged racer a softer flexing ski (without too short a sidecut) that is easy to bend will be faster since you are not skidding below the gate. If you get more serious and start training then a more serious GS ski would be appropriate.
180 is minimum for GS Men for anything non WC, and 180 is minimum Women's WC, making the 180 unisex.

As for the WC designation, I think they come in 180 @23m; and 185,190,193@27m. Slalom is still the same as it was before, 155 and 165 @13m.
post #13 of 14
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Originally Posted by Rise To The Top View Post
Too soft. Those things are noodles.
Stockli SC?? Are you sure you have ever skied them? Compared to what perhaps?
post #14 of 14
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Stockli SC?? Are you sure you have ever skied them? Compared to what perhaps?
Damn, I forgot that there are two SCs, the Laser and the Skicross. The Laser SC is really soft, compared to everything I have. I was about to buy a pair and then demo'd at Okemo and they were super soft.
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