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New PMGear Graphics - 186 & 196 "Lhasa Pow"

post #1 of 54
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Just released ... the graphics for the ski formerly known as the "Brocker" (you know we really couldn't keep that name).

The "Brocker" is now known as the "Lhasa Pow" (get it? Lotsa pow?). Lhasa is the capital of Tibet and literally means "place of the gods" in Tibetan. Appropriate since the gods often resided on mountaintops in Tibetan mythology.

Lhasa Pow will be available in 186 and 196 lengths. 140-112-120 ~35m turn radius for the 186. Rockered tip. Flat tail (w/very slight twin). Traditional sidecut underfoot for versatility. Available either in zero camber or a few mm's of camber. Available in standard fiberglass weave or carbon impregnated weave.

I'm really stoked with how these turned out!!!

We'll probably use both the green and blue colors. One will be the 186 and the other will be the 196..not sure which is which yet.

post #2 of 54
Good looking skis Ron. Who came up with the graphic concept?
Will there be flex choices on these?
post #3 of 54
I like it a lot! Looks cool...fun name with a bit of the eastern-zen thing going on. Was very tempted to buy this season off season..may buy some next year anyway. Going to be a great ski!
post #4 of 54
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider View Post
Good looking skis Ron. Who came up with the graphic concept?
Will there be flex choices on these?
Thanks. The concept was all Splat and he tossed out his ideas to our graphic designer, Jared, who came up with what you see here after a few iterations.

flex choices -- most likely one flex (pretty medium, round) but that can be varied by making a choice between the regular fiberglass triax or the carbon triax. The carbon version lightens the ski, but it also makes it a little more poppier and snappier. If someone wanted one especially soft or especially stiff for whatever reason that could possibly be accomodated as a special one-off request.
post #5 of 54
nice work! "Lhasa Pow" is quite the name, can't wait to bust balls and ask someone who has 'em (in my best Texas-gaper voice) "DuDe, WhAt'S tHaT mEaN?" and watch him sigh a deep breath to explain it... Looks good... Any word on what the topsheets will look like on the new 183s? I'm still biting my nails wondering what the skis I already bought will look like... Is Pat thinking traditional with the trees as in the older models or something artsy like these? (I love the trees)
post #6 of 54
Any pics of the final profile base-to-base, or a side view on a flat surface?
post #7 of 54
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Any pics of the final profile base-to-base, or a side view on a flat surface?
I might have a pic available. If not, I can take one of my prototype versions (with last year's 192 graphic though).

DoWork - I do believe that the graphic on the 183's will remain as they were.
post #8 of 54
sweetness... Thanks brotha!
post #9 of 54
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... the graphics for the ski formerly known as the "Brocker" (you know we really couldn't keep that name)....
Should've renamed it the "Brocker-Bama".
post #10 of 54
Any idea what the graphics on the limited run of 183s will be? Same as last years, I assume?
post #11 of 54
Mmmmm. Purdy
post #12 of 54
nice to see he didn't go with the om symbol.

Looking nice.
post #13 of 54
That name has quite the blasphemic touch, shame on you.
I truly think 'Brockers' sounds so much radder, should have stuck to it. Can't wait to get mine out of the basement.

The new design looks best of all the fleets so far, well done.
post #14 of 54
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I truly think 'Brockers' sounds so much radder, .
I'm sure people on teh intertoobs will still call them that 'Brocker' is kinda close sounding to the Salmon 'Rocker' and well.....and probably not a bad time to divisify a little away from the Bro Model name that we've been using since like 2002.

Samaurai -- Agreed. I wasn't a fan of that proposed Om symbol either.

Jaypowhound -- yes, the '08 - '09 183 Bro Model graphic will continue on unchanged from last year.
post #15 of 54
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I'm sure people on teh intertoobs will still call them that '
So why don't you just sack up and leave it as is? I just don't get it.
post #16 of 54
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So why don't you just sack up and leave it as is? I just don't get it.
Sack up? Sack up to what?. Didn't I just provide a few reasons above? Here's one more -- none of us even really liked the name 'Brocker' anyway.
post #17 of 54
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Sack up? Sack up to what?. Didn't I just provide a few reasons above? Here's one more -- none of us even really liked the name 'Brocker' anyway.
Who the hell cares what you guys like? What we interweb homos like should count, no?
post #18 of 54
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Who the hell cares what you guys like? What we interweb homos like should count, no?
post #19 of 54
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Just wanted to update this thread as the Lhasa Pow as been added to the PMGear website with a news release and to the online store.

News Release:
http://pmgear.com/news.php?Nid=102
post #20 of 54
SICKNESS!!! 183s are up too! BOOYAH!
post #21 of 54
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SICKNESS!!! 183s are up too! BOOYAH!
So I see... but the website only has the 183's listed as soft. I was under the impression that there were only stiffies coming out this year.

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces View Post
Transmission released today from PMGear CEbrO, Splat:

"I just got off the phone with AK bro Aldo. Due to popular demand, we're going to do another run of AK 183 Bros. We'll only do 100 pair this year. That's it. Due to the rising cost of everything involved, from materials to shipping, we're bumping the price to $739 this year, but will do maggot preorders at $639 for October delivery starting right now. The skis will be the stiff version only, since there wasn't much difference between the stiffs and softs this past season and everyone loved the hell out of both flexes.
-splat"
Is the ski on the website different for the 100 pairs of AK stiffs? Which did I buy?!?
post #22 of 54
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So I see... but the website only has the 183's listed as soft. I was under the impression that there were only stiffies coming out this year...



Is the ski on the website different for the 100 pairs of AK stiffs? Which did I buy?!?
I was thinking the same thing, but then it occured to me: It doesn't really matter. I would kinda like to know, but I'm sure thet no matter which 183 shows up on my doorstep I will love it. Ty? Any clarification or should I just ask Splat over on TGR?
post #23 of 54
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces View Post

<3 I might get a pair o' bros.
post #24 of 54
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Originally Posted by JayPowHound View Post
So I see... but the website only has the 183's listed as soft. I was under the impression that there were only stiffies coming out this year... Is the ski on the website different for the 100 pairs of AK stiffs? Which did I buy?!?
For those who care (here's looking at you DoWork) I posted this question on the PMGear forum too, and Splat just wrote back:

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There's only 100 pair being made this year. I switched the order from all stiffs to 60 stiff/40 soft, due to the immense number of people asking for softs.
I'll have to give Twoplanker a nudge to list them correctly here on the site.
If you have a preference, JPH, shoot me a mail at pat@pmgear.com and we'll make sure you get what you want.
Here I was thinking it was all said and done, and now I have a decision to make! I'm thinking softs, since I'm only 5'7 and I ski primarily tight east coast trees... any opinions either way?
post #25 of 54
Mine are the softs and they aren't that soft.
but then I'm a lightweight.
5'6" 130 lbs
post #26 of 54
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some of you may have seen these already, but I'm sure many of you haven't.....so here are the first pics of 196 Lhasa Pows.



One of our builders showing the tip rocker




these should have no speed limit in pow. I'll report back my findings this winter
post #27 of 54
Do the 186 have a speed limit?
post #28 of 54
I like the graphix on those better than mine. Can I swap even up
post #29 of 54
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Do the 186 have a speed limit?
I'm guessing their speed limit has a direct correlation to your testicular fortitude.
post #30 of 54
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Originally Posted by JayPowHound View Post
For those who care (here's looking at you DoWork) I posted this question on the PMGear forum too, and Splat just wrote back:

Here I was thinking it was all said and done, and now I have a decision to make! I'm thinking softs, since I'm only 5'7 and I ski primarily tight east coast trees... any opinions either way?
Sorry man, I just saw this- didn't mean to not respond... I also opted for the soft flex and I'm 5'9"/165ish so don't feel bad. I got the softies not because I don't think I'm going to be charging the hill, but I will be using them primarily for fresh snowfall and tight places and I feel the soft flex will maximize their enjoyability in these conditions. If I lived out west, I'd be all over the stiff flex model like DoWork on a hot blonde, but these will be pretty much pow-specific for me, hence the pow-specific flex option. I have my stiffer midfats for when the snow's not so fresh or there's not alot of it, so I figure make them the best they can be for the purpose I intended to use them for.

Now I just have to decide on a mounting line! ARGH! The decisions to be made just never end!
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