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post #31 of 85
7/19/08 at 7:35pm
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Why do you want to do a new wheel? I wouldn't bother unless you kill that one.

i say just lose the reflectors and then ride it.

If you must make some changes, get some Race Face bars and a Thomson stem. If you really want to make a change, try and find a fork like a Fox F80X. You can probably get one cheap with V-brake posts.
ReFLECTORS!!!!!
OMG, I'm sooooooooooo gonna kill her for leaving those reflectors on!!!!!
It was the first thing we both said was coming off. Why didn't we take them off?

[trekgoing to bike ASAP to take reflectors off]


I love your suggestions on the rest of the stuff, all of which are slated for the near future.
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post #32 of 85
7/19/08 at 7:37pm
Nice looking ride!

I agree with Epic that the biggest change you can make is the fork. I too would recommend the Fox F80, but then I really like Fox suspension.

This might seem a little lame, but if you've got some big climbs in your rides that you don't want to ride up, Shimano makes a nifty dual-pulley chain tensioner so you can run a little ring as well. No shifter or derailleur needed, just flip the chain off with your heel and you're good to go. I've seen this setup a few times and it's neat. Or you could find a smaller ring/bigger cog setup that uses the same amount of chain as your current setup and run them inboard on the freehub and little ring. You'd have to manually move the chain, but that beats walking big hills!
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post #33 of 85
7/19/08 at 7:47pm
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Funny, VG said the same thing about the Fox!

Bobatt, I'll be trying this for now, big hills and all. Thanks though, for the idea.
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post #34 of 85
7/20/08 at 3:18am
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I'm off to the races today, but thought I'd leave you with a few weight stats on the tires/rims alone.

Tires were foam filled, so she switched them out........
Weight of Rear Rubber, tire/tube = 3.4
Rear rim/hub = 2.9 without rubber
Weight of Front Rubber, tire/tube = 3.3
Front rim/hub = 2.2 without rubber
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post #35 of 85
7/20/08 at 3:26am
That fork IIRC was well over 3 lb, the Judy SL with the alu-mini-uhm steer tube was under 3 lb, plys being all yellow would match better. Spoke nipples, steel or aluminum? I bet the the tires are heavy too, some folding ones?

Looking good so far.
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post #36 of 85
7/20/08 at 5:41am
The Attitude's new shoes are IRC Mythos XC 1.95 Kevlar with Specialized Thin tubes. The Mythos work really well for our regularly sandy and sometimes slimy trails with a significant weight savings over most other tires that work well here. Total rubber weight for each wheel now is 1lb 12oz rear and 1lb 11oz front (a huge weight reduction from it's arrival!).

Usually we have a whole stock of stems and bars, and I would have switched her out with something with more rise, but after building 4 bikes already this year, the only stems we have left now are 1" or 1.5", with one longer, heavier 1.125" that's the same rise as the stock stem. We have a couple of lighter flat bars, including 2 Titec titanium bars, but they are all really short and after riding and adjusting my SS, I know she'll want wider bars for more leverage, plus more rise.

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Originally Posted by Epic
i say just lose the reflectors and then ride it.
DOH! I got the front and rear ones.
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post #37 of 85
7/20/08 at 6:52am
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Originally Posted by Bobatt View Post
This might seem a little lame, but if you've got some big climbs in your rides that you don't want to ride up, Shimano makes a nifty dual-pulley chain tensioner so you can run a little ring as well. No shifter or derailleur needed, just flip the chain off with your heel and you're good to go. I've seen this setup a few times and it's neat. Or you could find a smaller ring/bigger cog setup that uses the same amount of chain as your current setup and run them inboard on the freehub and little ring. You'd have to manually move the chain, but that beats walking big hills!
...maybe she could find some sort of remote activated system that maintains chain tension while allowing the use of multiple cogs and chainrings, there could be handle bar mounted "shifters" that would pull or release "cable" that would then actuate a... hmmm, what should we call it? Ohhh! I've got it! We'll call it a "Derailleur" !!!

Brilliant.
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post #38 of 85
7/20/08 at 7:09am
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Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
...maybe she could find some sort of remote activated system that maintains chain tension while allowing the use of multiple cogs and chainrings, there could be handle bar mounted "shifters" that would pull or release "cable" that would then actuate a... hmmm, what should we call it? Ohhh! I've got it! We'll call it a "Derailleur" !!!

Brilliant.
As in "de-railing" the chain? Thats just crazy talk. :
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post #39 of 85
7/20/08 at 7:43pm
But then you might need some sort of re-railleur!
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post #40 of 85
7/20/08 at 9:00pm

yep

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Originally Posted by TomB View Post
Holiday: looking at the stem, post, seat and bar, i'm amazed it could be anything under 23.

You meant BWPA's bike, didn't you?

From my experience, it is hard to get a bike to be under 20 lbs without sinking some good money into it.

I thought my rigid singlespeed with a CF fork, Race X Light 29er wheel in front and SS specific American Classic 26er wheel in the back (each around 800g) was 20.8 lbs. But that was on my not so accurate bathroom scale. On a digital scale at the bike shop it turns out to be 21.5 lbs. Still light for a steel bike.

Of course I could go to a set of super light brakes, carbon post and handlebar and probably get it close to 20 lbs, but little would change if the engine does not improve.

yes, Tom.
I was referring to to BWPA's schwinn in the pic in this quote.

my experienc is similiar to yours and putting together a sub 20lb bike, even a single usually has some pretty light expensives bits.

Great looking bike TC. Enjoy it.
I went single speed exclusively for 5 years on my anti tech rampage and anti race rampage (epic people must laugh when they see something about me that says anti tech.. ). I'm back to pretty gucci, techy and fast these days, but the SS detour made me a better rider and i enjoyed it. (and yes, i went fully rigid for awhile as well, but i have to admit, it make since in your mind, but it isn't nearly as much fun...)

TC, thanks for the kudos on dville.
i had what i thought was a pretty good goal to hit after ski season, i trained hard and hit it squarly on the head, which feels good...

cheers,
holiday
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post #41 of 85
7/20/08 at 9:37pm
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Originally Posted by Holiday View Post
I was referring to to BWPA's schwinn in the pic in this quote.
Ummm, it's not bushwackers, it's mine. We just built together as a project. FWIW, the wheels on my bike are really light....
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post #42 of 85
7/21/08 at 4:43am
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Ummm, it's not bushwackers, it's mine. We just built together as a project. FWIW, the wheels on my bike are really light....
Weight?
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post #43 of 85
7/21/08 at 6:24am
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post
Weight?
I dunno. We didn't put them on a scale. They were a $200ish wheelset that I got from REI for $40.
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post #44 of 85
7/21/08 at 8:13am
What kind/size seatpost?
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post #45 of 85
7/21/08 at 8:39am
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What kind/size seatpost?
I dunno. What we had laying around.

It's a GHETTO built bike!!!! Being such, we weighed it on the old bathroom scale in Bushwackers garage. To use a digie scale for this bike would be laughable. BW's right, it's hovering right around the +/- 20# range.
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post #46 of 85
7/21/08 at 8:47am
Sorry, I meant TC's bike. Which she says has a Thomson Elite on it.
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post #47 of 85
7/21/08 at 9:42am
Hey Trekchick !

Nice bike set-up.

My 14 yr old son (Rough on Bikes - Previous Post) would love it ... actually I wouldn't mind one myself !

I'm glad you posted final pics. Gave me a few ideas ... in a much much lower price range though. I'll be keeping my eyes open on garbage dayz.

Enjoy the new wheels and thanks again for posting pics.

RMP

PS: Young lad ended up gettin' a new bike within his buget and there is definate room for upgrades if and when necessary.
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post #48 of 85
7/21/08 at 10:46am
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RMP, You may want to PM Volklgirl. She may have a SS your 14 yo would like.

See pic - It was the night she convinced me to ride this bike, and gave me the bug to add a SS to my quiver of bikes.



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Originally Posted by RMP View Post
Hey Trekchick !

Nice bike set-up.


I'm glad you posted final pics. Gave me a few ideas ... in a much much lower price range though. I'll be keeping my eyes open on garbage dayz.

Enjoy the new wheels and thanks again for posting pics.

RMP
And those were not quite the FINAL pics. I kinda sorta have some more ideas in the think tank on this bike.
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post #49 of 85
7/21/08 at 11:10am
Trekchick:

Too Late ... He bought himself a KHS and absolutely loves it !

RMP
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post #50 of 85
7/21/08 at 4:25pm
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Originally Posted by Lonnie View Post
I dunno. What we had laying around.

It's a GHETTO built bike!!!! Being such, we weighed it on the old bathroom scale in Bushwackers garage. To use a digie scale for this bike would be laughable. BW's right, it's hovering right around the +/- 20# range.
What you mean by ghetto? Are you poking fun at minority groups?
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post #51 of 85
7/21/08 at 6:29pm
TC,

One more vote for getting rid of the shock and going rigid. About 2 years ago, I built up my rigid SS and have been riding nothing but since. My IF with a brand new shock has been sitting in my garage collecting dust for nearly two years. Shocks are well, just too squishy.

IMHO, if you need a shock, you probably need a dérailleur. (unless of course you're recovering from a broken wrist.)

If you go rigid, try & find a Richey Logic fork. Klein use to make a rigid fork, but was way too stiff. The RL fork is plush.
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post #52 of 85
7/21/08 at 6:31pm
Ghetto = Parts Bin?
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post #53 of 85
7/21/08 at 7:29pm
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Ghetto = Parts Bin?
to me and lonnie yes, to telerod he is readin into it way to much trying to elect responses.
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post #54 of 85
7/22/08 at 3:14am
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
to me and lonnie yes, to telerod he is readin into it way to much trying to elect responses.
In all fairness to Rod, I had to ask the first few times you used that term.

Don't get me wrong, you have a lot of good information and I'm glad you share it, but it is not always easy to decode your slang terms and lack of punctuation.
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post #55 of 85
7/22/08 at 12:58pm
telerod: What you mean by ghetto? Are you poking fun at minority groups?

No he was not, but ghetto has nothing to do with minorities. It has to do with poverty, hence the reference. Translation: poor man's singlespeed.

Of course, any man/woman fortunate enough to experience the joy of singlespeeding on ANY bike is rich, methinks.
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post #56 of 85
7/22/08 at 1:10pm
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No he was not, but ghetto has nothing to do with minorities. It has to do with poverty, hence the reference. Translation: poor man's singlespeed.
Ghetto, by this definition = not doing it the bike shop way....

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Of course, any man/woman fortunate enough to experience the joy of singlespeeding on ANY bike is rich, methinks.
True dat!
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post #57 of 85
7/22/08 at 1:17pm
"...ghetto has nothing to do with minorities." I'm guessing you are not Jewish or Afro-American.

Wikipedia says a ghetto is a part of a city where members of a minority group are concentrated due to legal, social or economic forces. If you don't live in a ghetto, you might want to avoid using the term in a flip way. It might be slang among white advantaged bikers meaning parts bin or whatever. A lot of the bikers I hang out with live in the ghetto and I don't hear the word ghetto used by that crowd in reference to bicycles. My bike has been referred to as a hoopty ride but that was several years ago and I don't know if that term is still in vogue.
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post #58 of 85
7/22/08 at 1:25pm
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Originally Posted by telerod15 View Post
"...ghetto has nothing to do with minorities." I'm guessing you are not Jewish or Afro-American.

Wikipedia says a ghetto is a part of a city where members of a minority group are concentrated due to legal, social or economic forces. If you don't live in a ghetto, you might want to avoid using the term in a flip way. It might be slang among white advantaged bikers meaning parts bin or whatever. A lot of the bikers I hang out with live in the ghetto and I don't here the word ghetto bandied around among that crowd. My bike has been referred to as a hoopty ride but that was several years ago and I don't know if that term is still in vogue.
tele where were you for my 'ghetto' tubeless thread?

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...hetto+Tubeless

I dont care what race, color, sexuality, where you live, where your from. Good people are good people, bad people are bad people nothing superficial has anything to with makes you a good person.

If a person is offended by me using that word, guess what though I dont care. I have never been, and never have been politically correct.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ghetto

ghetto-
4. (adj.) jury-rigged, improvised, or home-made (usually with extremely cheap or sub-standard components), yet still deserving of an odd sense of respect from ghetto dwellers and non-ghetto dwellers alike.
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post #59 of 85
7/22/08 at 1:30pm
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
Good people are good people, bad people are bad people nothing superficial has anything to with makes you a good person.

If a person is offended by me using that word, guess what though I dont care.
Well there you go, offending others and not caring puts you firmly in the bad people group.
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post #60 of 85
7/22/08 at 1:36pm
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Originally Posted by telerod15 View Post
"...ghetto has nothing to do with minorities." I'm guessing you are not Jewish or Afro-American.

Wikipedia says a ghetto is a part of a city where members of a minority group are concentrated due to legal, social or economic forces. If you don't live in a ghetto, you might want to avoid using the term in a flip way. It might be slang among white advantaged bikers meaning parts bin or whatever. A lot of the bikers I hang out with live in the ghetto and I don't hear the word ghetto used by that crowd in reference to bicycles. My bike has been referred to as a hoopty ride but that was several years ago and I don't know if that term is still in vogue.
And we all know what wikipedia says is the truth....

Hey, guess what, I lived in a ghetto once. It was a "student ghetto", but that's what we called it....

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Well there you go, offending others and not caring puts you firmly in the bad people group.
And caring too much about a slang word puts you firmly in the stick up your @$$ PC group.

It's stupid $#!+ like this that has me spending more and more time @ TGR and less and less time @ epicski....
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