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^^^P.S.  Congrats to Denver.

Panthers are off to a nice start.  We need a nice cushion.  Came close to blowing several big leads this season letting folks back in the game 4th quarter.

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Would love to see Carolina vs Denver in the SuperBowl.  Denver's showing they still stifle Brady again if they keep focused.  My cousin in AZ needs to duffer disappointment today.  But, regardless NFC all the way baby!

 

Looks like you'll get your wish.  Arizona has been gone for a while now...15-42 Wow

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So disappointed they didn't break 50 points.

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In case you didn't get our Christmas card..

 

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Crank up the volume!!

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Congrats to Denver. Too many loose balls lost by Carolina. It was a good run though. Great season Panthers.

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I think Carolina just lacked playoff experience and didn't have that killer instinct. Newton is a young guy and he has a great future ahead. Peyton is likely going to hang it up. Nice ending.
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Does this basically mean that Denver can't win a Super Bowl unless its QB is about to retire? Two for Elway in his last two years. Now one for Manning in his last (or at least penultimate) year.

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Someone in the Panthers organization that cares for Cam needs to show him tape of past SB press interviews by losing QBs such as Brady, Manning, Wilson, etc and point out that they didn't act like a toddler who lost their happy meal toy. Heck-Jim Kelly lost 4 and was still able to play his role as the team leader anf face the media with class.
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Someone in the Panthers organization that cares for Cam needs to show him tape of past SB press interviews by losing QBs such as Brady, Manning, Wilson, etc and point out that they didn't act like a toddler who lost their happy meal toy. Heck-Jim Kelly lost 4 and was still able to play his role as the team leader anf face the media with class.


Ya, I'm more hacked off about that than I am about losing the game.  He was maturing nicely then it all fell apart again last night..  Went from sitting on the end of the bench by himself hiding under a towel sulking last season to  getting more motivated and encouraging.  Pulling down the Green Bay fan's banner was a deuche move, he handled the Seattle fan with the banner better.  Then last night, walking out mid interview??  Kinda like Crosby not shaking hands after the Stanley Cup a few years ago..  There is still hope but not happy with his antics last night at all.

 

Good thing they didn't hand the Lombardi Trophy to the Panthers last night.... They would have dropped it

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At least Crosby would have made a play on the loose puck with the game in the balance. 

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By the way...how does that horse taste now?

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By the way...how does that horse taste now?


So gracious in victory!  :D

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By the way...how does that horse taste now?


So gracious in victory!  :D


Always! :D 

 

BTW, this IS the NFL. It's the Bigs here. If you're going to bring the smack talk, you better be prepared for the smack down. Or am I wrong? :rolleyes 

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Always! :D


It's smash-mouth football baby!  Love it!  :D

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By the way...how does that horse taste now?


pass the tumms hahaha  think someone switched the chicken wings for crow!


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pass the tumms hahaha  think someone switched the chicken wings for crow!

Panthers got no horse, just hosed.

 

It was interesting the footing issues that both team experienced in the early going. The conditions looked great, but we have all learned that looks can be very deceiving. 

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Someone in the Panthers organization that cares for Cam needs to show him tape of past SB press interviews by losing QBs such as Brady, Manning, Wilson, etc and point out that they didn't act like a toddler who lost their happy meal toy. Heck-Jim Kelly lost 4 and was still able to play his role as the team leader anf face the media with class.

This isn't much of an excuse but none of those guys had to do their post game debrief with an opposing, winning player gloating five feet away from them, much less still taunting them. Cam still should have stuck it out, especially because he probably would have been saying similar next to o Denver players interviews had Carolina won.  He did go congratulate Peyton and shake his hand before the final meltdown..

 

That Time Peyton Manning Was A Bad Sport And Barely Anyone Cared

 

 

 

I'll still pull for people that stir things up.  Here are some of my favorite NCAA and NFL players over the years.  They all took similar criticism, or did they?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Someone in the Panthers organization that cares for Cam needs to show him tape of past SB press interviews by losing QBs such as Brady, Manning, Wilson, etc and point out that they didn't act like a toddler who lost their happy meal toy. Heck-Jim Kelly lost 4 and was still able to play his role as the team leader anf face the media with class.

This isn't much of an excuse but none of those guys had to do their post game debrief with an opposing, winning player gloating five feet away from them, much less still taunting them.

May I offer, please, an opposing opinion...

 

It isn't ANY excuse. He was a whiney child who loves to play up his own Supermanness but can't hack it when things don't work out. Someone said that he is also a professional something or other...I don't see it.

 

BTW, do you KNOW that no one else has ever had the winners' presser going on at the same time? I don't know if that is true or not.

 

You also seem to imply that people are complaining only because he is "loud" all the rest of the time. Not me. I'm complaining because he was a childish beotch during the presser. I'd say the same about Manning or anyone else who did the same. I'd also include the line, "I lost a lot of respect for him today" if that were the case. I didn't lose any resect for Cam because I had none for him to begin with...aside from my respect for his incredible, amazing, scary football skills. I'm from the school of If You're Really Any Good You Don't Need To Talk About It So Shut Up And Play. Those who won't shut up and play need to work a little harder to get my respect in the first place.

 

And I expect we'll see may more opportunities for him do the right thing...he's not going away.

post #172 of 179

I didn't see the interviews but it's not really a huge deal.  Cam's a young very talented guy who was obviously crushingly disappointed.  Obviously his agent and PR guys will give him some coaching that to bring in the really big endorsements he needs to give a bit more in situations like that so middle america can get to love him.  No-one will care long term, either he learns to put on a bit of a false front for such occasions or he develops a longer term "brat" persona.  I'd bet on the former.

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He was a whiney child who loves to play up his own Supermanness but can't hack it when things don't work out. 

From a Broncos fan who is about to head downstairs from the office to join hundreds of thousands of my close friends watching the victory parade, I say we give Cam a pass on this.  He's still pretty green and obviously has some growing up to do, but I'm confident he will.  Von Miller was similarly immature until this year, and look at him now.  My guess is we'll see that same maturation process in Newton.

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I didn't see the interviews but it's not really a huge deal.  Cam's a young very talented guy who was obviously crushingly disappointed.  Obviously his agent and PR guys will give him some coaching that to bring in the really big endorsements he needs to give a bit more in situations like that so middle america can get to love him.  No-one will care long term, either he learns to put on a bit of a false front for such occasions or he develops a longer term "brat" persona.  I'd bet on the former.

 

 

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He was a whiney child who loves to play up his own Supermanness but can't hack it when things don't work out. 

From a Broncos fan who is about to head downstairs from the office to join hundreds of thousands of my close friends watching the victory parade, I say we give Cam a pass on this.  He's still pretty green and obviously has some growing up to do, but I'm confident he will.  Von Miller was similarly immature until this year, and look at him now.  My guess is we'll see that same maturation process in Newton.

I think he will mature too. I expect he will. I just don't give someone a pass on that behavior, but I don't permanently condemn him either. He starts with a clean slate next year with me. Like I said, I think he'll have many years that he'll be in the spotlight, he's amazing.

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You also seem to imply that people are complaining only because he is "loud" all the rest of the time. Not me. I'm complaining because he was a childish beotch during the presser. I'd say the same about Manning or anyone else who did the same. I'd also include the line, "I lost a lot of respect for him today" if that were the case. I didn't lose any resect for Cam because I had none for him to begin with...aside from my respect for his incredible, amazing, scary football skills. I'm from the school of If You're Really Any Good You Don't Need To Talk About It So Shut Up And Play. Those who won't shut up and play need to work a little harder to get my respect in the first place.

 

And I expect we'll see may more opportunities for him do the right thing...he's not going away.

Really, and why is it that you had no respect for him to begin with??
 

Is this your own words??

 

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May I offer, please, an opposing opinion...

 

It isn't ANY excuse. He was a whiney child who loves to play up his own Supermanness but can't hack it when things don't work out. Someone said that he is also a professional something or other...I don't see it.

 

If You're Really Any Good You Don't Need To Talk About It So Shut Up And Play. Those who won't shut up and play need to work a little harder to get my respect in the first place.

 

 

Pretty sure that you don't like people that are "loud".  What else defines "loud"?

 

FWIW there's quite a bit of charity work Newton does in local communities beyond giving footballs to kids rich enough to procure front row seats.  But, that isn't loud enough to get much attention from haters.

 

A lot of people have put far more negative time and negative energy in to bashing Newton for three minutes of silent defiance than seems rational.  Why is that??  I'm not defending that defiance but I am defending the man himself for what he is, human.  Everyone's had someone within earshot get under their skin and put them in a position best walk to away before really losing their temper.  That's what transpired here.

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You're reading in stuff I didn't say, and don't mean.

 

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You also seem to imply that people are complaining only because he is "loud" all the rest of the time. Not me. I'm complaining because he was a childish beotch during the presser. I'd say the same about Manning or anyone else who did the same. I'd also include the line, "I lost a lot of respect for him today" if that were the case. I didn't lose any resect for Cam because I had none for him to begin with...aside from my respect for his incredible, amazing, scary football skills. I'm from the school of If You're Really Any Good You Don't Need To Talk About It So Shut Up And Play. Those who won't shut up and play need to work a little harder to get my respect in the first place.

 

And I expect we'll see may more opportunities for him do the right thing...he's not going away.

Really, and why is it that you had no respect for him to begin with?? Yes I don't like big mouths, but that isn't why I complain about his presser performance. Both can be true at the same time.
 

Is this your own words?? Uh, whose else would they be?

 

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May I offer, please, an opposing opinion...

 

It isn't ANY excuse. He was a whiney child who loves to play up his own Supermanness but can't hack it when things don't work out. Someone said that he is also a professional something or other...I don't see it.

 

If You're Really Any Good You Don't Need To Talk About It So Shut Up And Play. Those who won't shut up and play need to work a little harder to get my respect in the first place.

 

 

Pretty sure that you don't like people that are "loud".  What else defines "loud"? As I said, you're right I don't. But that isn't why I (and friends I discussed this with) are calling him out for beotchiness.

 

FWIW there's quite a bit of charity work Newton does in local communities beyond giving footballs to kids rich enough to procure front row seats.  But, that isn't loud enough to get much attention from haters. That is awesome of him! Doesn't excuse beotchiness.

 

A lot of people have put far more negative time and negative energy in to bashing Newton for three minutes of silent defiance than seems rational.  Why is that?? For me, this is not some bandwagon upon which I just recently leapt. I've ALWAYS denounced the childish pissiness that too often appears in pro sports. Let me ask you...are you trying to argue that his behavior is perfectly OK, or are you just  - again - playing devils advocate and not presenting a clean position while doing it?

And yes, if you are going to run around with golden Superman S's on all your sh!t, and wish you could run around with big banners and lighted marquees declaring your awesomeness, you should be a big enough man to handle the bad with the good lest you stir the sh!t with those too blind to recognize your awesomeness on their own. Yes I get that he is young - don't care! He is a man, he is a pro, and he has a very public career. He failed here. I hope and expect that he will get better. He should have many years to work it out 'cause he IS awesome...at football. Life is bigger than that.

post #177 of 179
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First thing I said multiple places was that the behavior during the interview was more disappointing to me than the performance during the game.  I'm also still hacked off at him for tearing down a fans banner at the Veteran's Day Celebration, fan was a vet but that doesn't even matter.  Fans cheering for the other team are still guests in my house and should be treated as guests.

 

But, three minutes of stewing during the post game isn't  THAT big a deal at all to me, especially after I found out about the taunting right beside him.  Could he have handled it better?  Maybe, but I can't guarantee that I would have... even making what they make. 


Edited by crgildart - 2/9/16 at 12:58pm
post #178 of 179
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:ahijack:So how about that halftime show???:hijack:

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