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post #1 of 27
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Advice Needed. Want to buy a digital camera, thin/little one, to plug in to my laptop so I can post pics here and send to friends relatives etc.

VA gave me some advice and told me to post here. I am not computer intelligent, so keep it simple please.

Anyone know of good deals, what to buy, what not to buy, where to buy etc.

Mainly want to use for skiing, but fishing, hiking etc. too. Thanks Pete
post #2 of 27
Pete, though you'll get tons of advice leading you to Cannon Super Shot(?) which I have no knowledge, I'm confident in encouraging you to look at a Kodak Easyshare.
http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQueri...q-locale=en_US
The software is simple, the new camera I got last December has HD video capabilities as well as 12 MP(selective) still picture capabilities.
Features I like:
No lens cap to fiddle with
nice screen for viewing.
Simple menu
Easy to transfer pics to a lap top without an electric outlet.

Thing I dislike most: No optical viewfinder, only digital screen, which is tricky in bright sunlight.


Examples of Pics I've taken:
Trout in Grandma's pond

Bee on Ajuga


Montezuma Bowl wit da boyz
post #3 of 27
Canon ELPH series should be on your short list. Image stabilization would be a must on any new camera I'd consider. I always think the wide lens (28mm equivalent) would be a good feature but it's harder to find.
post #4 of 27
How much are you looking to spend Pete ?

The Kodaks optical quality speaks for itself. You can do much better, My opinion. One is rated very highly

Canon cameras

Here's a cool ratings site
post #5 of 27
I sold cameras part time in 2005-2006. If all you want to do is point and shoot with as little complexity as possible then Kodak is probably for you. Other brands also offer a simple version of their product offering, but I've found that novices tended to be happier with the simple Kodaks. Kodak does also have some pretty good performers, but that isn't their percieved position in the market. I've been out of that gig for three years now so things have probably changed since 2006. I'd recommend reading comments here, doing some research, and visit some stores to try some out.
post #6 of 27
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Thanks. I was at COSTCO the other day and leisurely looking and they had $199 and $229 cameras that were the right size, duh-didn't look at brand.


what features should I be looking for. Knowledgeable camera guy but sorry to say the old cameras. VA said at leat 7 pixels any other features I shoudl look for?

Thanks Pete
post #7 of 27
Try to find one with an optical view finder. The LCD screens can be hard to see in bright sunlight.
post #8 of 27
I'm a fan of the little Canons. They have solid optics & electronics. Get one that is image stabilzed (the "IS" ones). And super-important - one with an optical viewfinder in addition to the LCD on the back. If you are taking ski pics, the LCD is likely to be useless a big chunk of the time.

I have a G9 and the rest of the family has DSLRs - but ironically, most of our ski pics are taken by my semi-beatered tiny Canon IS camera because I can shove it in a pant or jacket pocket - and I can pull it out and snap a few pics almost anywhere. And the IS helps things when I'm teetering or wobbling on some silly perch, or I'm in a real rush. I still lose a ton of "quicky" shots, but I have many that just would not happen without a palm sized P&S - eg yanking the camera out shooting at the top of some silly little couloir & banging out a few shots in under 15-30 seconds when no one is gonna stop for photoslutting. My biggest complaint is that the mode setting tab is easy to slide around when you are shoving the camera in and out of a pocket - so you really need to check if you are, for example, in snow scene or movie mode...

Anything 7 or 8 megapixels or better is likely to be fine. Try to get one that has a relatively fast frame rate. More optical zoom is better than less. Get a big & fast SD card (Costco deal includes one).

Costco & Amazon make this pretty easy.

There are many excellent threads on this topic at TGR as well.
post #9 of 27
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Thankyou everyone this info. helps a lot.
post #10 of 27
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post
Pete, though you'll get tons of advice leading you to Cannon Super Shot(?) which I have no knowledge, I'm confident in encouraging you to look at a Kodak Easyshare.
http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQueri...q-locale=en_US
The software is simple, the new camera I got last December has HD video capabilities as well as 12 MP(selective) still picture capabilities.
Features I like:
No lens cap to fiddle with
nice screen for viewing.
Simple menu
Easy to transfer pics to a lap top without an electric outlet.
I like my Kodak Easyshare for the same reasons. The price was right, it takes nice big 8 megapixel pictures like the ones TC posted, you can set it up manually for macro, landscape, or portrait modes (or just let it default to the best match). and you can create rudimentary .avi videos with sound.

Here's a recent pic with a Kodak Easyshare...



The only downside with the camera is that it uses a lot of batteries. If you don't already have a battery charger and a cache of rechargeable AA batteries, you probably should factor in the cost of the charger and the batteries. Otherwise, you'll go broke feeding Duracells into this camera!
post #11 of 27
I used to have a Pentax A10 which took good pics, but had terrible shutter lag. Changed it at the start of the year to a Canon Powershot G9. It's excellent. Some of the smaller Sureshot ones should be considered too, particularly if size/price is an issue.
I've recently bought a 5D as well. Doubt it will go to the slopes for a couple of years - for fear of breaking it. But the quality difference between the G9 (12Mp) and the 5D (12Mp) is very noticeable.
post #12 of 27
One thing about my Canon 750 is the amazing battery life. Months between charges!
post #13 of 27
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One thing about my Canon 750 is the amazing battery life. Months between charges!
Yeah, same with the 800. I've been amazed
post #14 of 27
I keep my charger handy, but the litium Ion battery, of the Kodak I have, has amazing longevity.
post #15 of 27
All the pictures I've posted have been taken with Canon PowerShot cameras. I am currently using the 800 IS, which is part of the Elph series. Super small. It has an optical viewfinder (a deal breaker IMO), the ability to shot a fast series for races or for montaging later (intermediate images skipped when doing this overlay as being too confusing):

Also has the ability to record 640x480 videos for as long as your card will hold (plenty for skiing movement analysis).

Drawbacks: I feel like it could be sharper sometimes and I just discovered it doesn't have the ability to set the aperature, just the film speed.

It does do face recognition and have all those "special colors, special lighting" things that seem to go with digitals.
post #16 of 27
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All the pictures I've posted have been taken with Canon PowerShot cameras. I am currently using the 800 IS, which is part of the Elph series. Super small. It has an optical viewfinder (a deal breaker IMO), the ability to shot a fast series for races or for montaging later (intermediate images skipped when doing this overlay as being too confusing):

Also has the ability to record 640x480 videos for as long as your card will hold (plenty for skiing movement analysis).

Drawbacks: I feel like it could be sharper sometimes and I just discovered it doesn't have the ability to set the aperature, just the film speed.

It does do face recognition and have all those "special colors, special lighting" things that seem to go with digitals.

Sibhusky, is that you? can't tell with the goggles and helmet. Looking good, nice snow. Trees far apart, damn wish it was November. Wishing my life away huh.
post #17 of 27
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Looks like you put the front two pics over the back one...there are no tracks from the turns..unless you were in the air for them .

What software are you using?
post #18 of 27
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
Looks like you put the front two pics over the back one...there are no tracks from the turns..unless you were in the air for them .

What software are you using?
Yeah, I realized I should have done it in a different order after I did it. Good eyes. I just haven't had the time to re-work it.

It's Siblet, not me.
post #19 of 27
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After reading all your input and doing some research on the net. How does this one sound:

Canon IXUS85IS $289 at Plemix. 3x,10pixel,viewfinder, image stabilizer, battery and charger, pretty small 89mmx59x20. All the rating are pretty high.

Watcha think?
post #20 of 27
of all the ironies, Max 501 was raving about a camera recently, affordable point and shoot with a great screen for watching video while training. He said he would post about it here....maybe he did before he was axed.

Looks like you picked out a good one though....the viewfinder is tough to find these days, and a must!
post #21 of 27
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Nice pics. Sibhusky. Looking up the Canon 800IS now and compare to the other one I mentioned.
post #22 of 27
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Originally Posted by Pete No. Idaho View Post
I am not computer intelligent, so keep it simple please.
Once you get your camera, you should follow Cirquerider's advice and dump your photos into photobucket.com. It makes posting here pretty easy.

Looking forward to powder and fish photos!
post #23 of 27
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THANKS Everyone for your information. Digital cameras are basically new to me. Ordered today: Canon SD 850 IS with extra battery, 1 GB memory, tripod, case and 3 yr guar. and free shipping $273.00

Hopefully I will learn how to use and post pics here before winter. I am installing a chairlift on my patio with cable etc. so maybe that can be my lst pic. Thanks Again. Pete
post #24 of 27
Pete , nice purchase. Can you PM me where you bought it ? Did you try Huppins on the internet or downtown Spo ? They often have very competitive pricing.

I'm looking at the same camera. My Canon is too bulky and I want a pocket friendly camera for skiing and hiking.
post #25 of 27
Good choice Pete. You have seen pictures of yourself taken with that exact same model!



Gary, I bought one at Office Depot back in December. At that time they were cheaper than Costco, Huppins, etc. Their sale price was $230, but that was without an extra battery etc.

For me, any digital camera used to capture sporting events has to have an optical view finder. Sometimes the sun can washout the lcd. Also, holding the camera right up to my face rather than out away from your body makes a world of difference in capturing moving objects.

YMMV
post #26 of 27
Pete, I'm sure you'll like your camera.

I love gadgets. Sometimes I even get paid to play with them.

But I hate complicated crap. And I tend to be a little rough on my stuff, especially when skiing or doing water activities.

Last winter I won an Olympus SW1030 in a little raffle. It is advertised as Waterproof, Shockproof, Freezeproof. I have to say that I was calling BS, especially on the Waterproof part. No more.

Shockproof - as we did the raffle, people were literally tossing the camera around the ski lodge. And letting it hit the floor. No problem.

Freezeproof - well, I keep it in an inside pocket because whether its freezeproof or not, batteries work better when they are warm. But I've let it get pretty cold and it still works fine.

Waterproof - I really didn't trust this one. Sure, I dropped it in the snow and it still worked fine. It got a little wet when I was out in the rain one time. But like underwater? No way with this little thing. So I took it rafting one day figuring at most it might get splashed. I miscalculated on our put-in spot and got tossed from the raft in the first rapids. After a 100 yard swim down the Merced river in really cold water, I got back in the raft and laughed as I pulled the camera out. Still working just fine. The other day I actually took an underwater picture with it. The flash fired and it took a pretty good picture. I'm a believer now.

My other two criteria for skiing are 1) compact, and 2) long zoom - it has to fit in a small pocket - ideally in the little pocket on the belt of my pack and it should have the longest zoom possible in case I want to shoot someone across the valley or way up the couloir. This thing is tiny - check off criteria #1. Zoom - well, its compromised there. 3.6x zoom isn't as much as I'd like. So far that's one of its only shortcomings.

I also had a Canon Powershot A720 IS and it was too thick for my tastes. It did have a longer zoom, but if I can't fit it in a pocket well, who cares. I took advantage of Costco's generous return policy and swapped it for a Panasonic DMC-TZ3 last winter (just before I won the Olympus). The Panasonic is pretty darn good. Its thin enough for my pocket criteria (thicker than the Olympus though). And it has a 10x zoom - really nice, and a good Leica lens.

For a while last season I was carrying both cameras with me. But I'd only take out the Olympus if it was snowing or if I thought I might drop it. I still have the Panasonic and I do take it on vacations and use it if I need the long zoom. But if I do get a new DSLR, the Panasonic will be given to one of my kids as a gift.

My bottom line - if you want it for skiing and fishing - get the Olympus. You'll be extremely happy the first time you drop it in the river and can fish it out and still take pics. I still don't believe this thing is waterproof. Every time I get it wet it amazes me.
post #27 of 27
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Thanks everyone.

Merlin/Dave hows the golf game this summer. I am still in the low 90's, if I could putt could move that easily into the mid to low 80's-ugh.
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