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Thread Starter 
I have already decided to purchase a new set of K2 Apache Raiders and a pair of Lange Fluid 80's. However, the one part that I have not decided on is which bindings to purchase. I have found a pair of Marker 28v's online (and yes I know I have to be careful about buying things online) but I was not sure that they would suit my needs. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
post #2 of 13
According to the K2 web site you don't have a choice. The only binding available is the K2/Marker M2 11.0 TC.
post #3 of 13
Some of the Raiders were sold flat so he may have a choice.
post #4 of 13
Thread Starter 
Yeah these ones are flat. I already checked. Is there any specific feature or size I should look for? Also, being a college student I kind of have limited funds.
post #5 of 13
Which models of Markers tend to have inadvertent release? Some of the Markers do this more than other brands.

Marker and K2 (and Volkl) have the same owner, Jarden Corp.

I'd choose any brand except Marker. Be sure your new bindings have brakes the correct width for these skis. Get bindings toward the upper end of the scale for any brand, but not with your release setting at the bottom of the range of that binding..
post #6 of 13
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Originally Posted by SoftSnowGuy View Post
Which models of Markers tend to have inadvertent release?
Any with the biometric toe. I think you have to go for a 16 or 18+ DIN binding to escape it.

OP: You haven't told us any of the usual information -- skill level, height, weight, DIN you typically use, etc. -- so I'm flying a bit blind here. But since the Apache Raider is an intermediate ski, models that should work for you and can be found relatively inexpensively include the Look Nova/NX series and pretty much any modern Tyrolia binding (including Railflex models). Level Nine Sports is usually a good bet for decent prices, and eBay is always worth a shot if you know what models are recent enough to be worth buying.
post #7 of 13
The Marker biometric toe is designed to release when it detects a slow-backwards-twisting fall. These are the some of the most common causes of injuries on the hill because most bindings won't release at all with a vertical force on the toepiece - there's enough force to snap an ACL or spiral a tibia, but not enough to release the binding because it's exerted in the wrong direction. The Marker biometric toe is designed to address this shortcoming by reducing the retention when the force is upward. Is this feature a good thing? For most skiers it is. For some it's not.

With any binding and settings, you're looking at a compromise between the skis staying on when you want them to stay on and coming off when you want them off. Skiers who ski narrow chutes where a prerelease means a ragdoll flop over the rocks will err on the side of staying on - biometric toe technology is not for them. For the other 99% of us, it's an appropriate technology.

I switched to Markers after seeing three friends suffer tibia fractures in the course of a year - all three caused by Salomon bindings that stayed on when they should have released, in one case a type I skier with the din set to 3.5.
post #8 of 13
This thread doesn't need to become a Marker battle. Personally, I've never bought a pair (other than Dukes) on their own, but when they've come with a pair of skis I bought, I haven't pulled them off either.

The more salient issue is that they're rarely well discounted. That's more important to the OP.

Some discounted options:

Evogear has both the Dynastar NX10 Driver and Rossi Axium 100 for $80. I believe they're the same binding.

Level Nine has the Tyrolia LD 12 Railflex for $80.

eBay buy-it-now options include Marker M11.0 Frees and Fischer (Tyrolia) FR 11s, both for about $90 shipped.
post #9 of 13
Thread Starter 
Oh! Sorry for the lack of info. I'm about 5'10", 5'11", about 145-150 lbs, and about an intermediate in terms of actually skiing. However, when it comes to gear I don't know much, not even too sure of my DIN. Thanks again. Oh, and I ski mostly out east, though I'm trying to change that.
post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by alpinedad View Post
This thread doesn't need to become a Marker battle. Personally, I've never bought a pair (other than Dukes) on their own, but when they've come with a pair of skis I bought, I haven't pulled them off either.

The more salient issue is that they're rarely well discounted. That's more important to the OP.

Some discounted options:

Evogear has both the Dynastar NX10 Driver and Rossi Axium 100 for $80. I believe they're the same binding.

Level Nine has the Tyrolia LD 12 Railflex for $80.

eBay buy-it-now options include Marker M11.0 Frees and Fischer (Tyrolia) FR 11s, both for about $90 shipped.
Go for the Fisher FR 11s.
post #11 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks guys. I did find these and I was wondering if they were worth getting. Thanks again.
post #12 of 13
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Originally Posted by Powdern00b88 View Post
Thanks guys. I did find these and I was wondering if they were worth getting. Thanks again.
Assuming they can be fitted to your skis and are complete & functional, those Marker 1300s will be fine.

As an intermediate, don't buy into the "gotta crank the DIN to 11" meme. Start with the recommended DIN, and if you find that you're coming out of your bindings too often first evaluate your technique to see if that's the problem before cranking up the DIN to a higher level.
post #13 of 13
From the "Marker out" thread:



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