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I am In A Difficult Conundrum!

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
Hi Everyone, I hope someone may help me here!

So, to start off I am 16, 160 pounds, 6', and just about done growing vertically ( I still neeed to bulk out). Anyway, I think it is time for me to starting buying my own skis, instead of renting them, (For about 12 years now!).

My parents say i should just Demo skis through the winter before I buy my first pair of skis, but I think that would get to expensive. First, what are your views about demoing at my age right now?

Second, I cannot decide the type of ski I would want. I live in the East, PA, and unfortunately, the mountains suck, (except for ELK). So, I ski on mostly groomed, artificial snow most of the winter, with the occasional trips up to Smuggs.

I have the racing style, a pretty advanced skiier, but it seems the skis I am looking for are too expensive (K2 Apache Crossfire, Rossignol Bandit, etc.) BUT, i also like moguls, and doing some park jumps.

So, In conclusion, I am looking for a ski that does great for turns, about the size of slalom type turns, picks up speed, adequate in moguls, and could do jumps.
So in other words, is there an all-around good racing/twin tip hybrid ski, I guess you could call it? i.e. K2 PE's, Salomon 1080 Foil, Line Invader, or an rounded tip and bottom all-mountain ski?
Thanks!

Greg
post #2 of 13
Greg,

What makes a race ski a race ski, and what makes a park ski a park ski are two very different sets of attributes. That being said, there are plenty of all mountain skis that will probably make you very very happy.

The one ski that comes to mind when you say SL race ski turn shape w/ a turned up tail and playful nature is... the Stockli Rotor. It may not be in the right price range, however.

Some other choices:

K2 PE; cheap, fun, solid performer.
Head iM78; great all mountain ski for the east, solid edge grip, slight kick-tail.
Salomon Foil; quick, light, playful, a great park ski.
Scott Punisher; will carve shorter radius turns, solid AM performer, cheap.
post #3 of 13

Perplexion

Greg. I would recommend a Fischer RC4 about 160-170. Great groomer ski, good in all types of turns, versatile and performance oriented without being twitchy .

Do what I did last year. Post the question here (done), take the recommendations you think will work and demo that ski. Then you will know for sure.

Last yr I posted a question on ski's and 12 of 15 answers all recommended the Nordica Afternburner. I demo'd in 178 and loved ski. I am not recommending the Afterburner for you - just an example. I do recommend getting a short list and demoing so you know if you are making
the right choice - can get expensive if you make the wrong choice.

NOTE. I bought Nordica Afterburners 178 with bindings for $500. in mid season last year. Don't know Epic's policy on listing where, so PM me if you want Where. Got name of guy here on Epic, years ago.
post #4 of 13
I would buy 2 pairs of ski in fact I have some 170cm Rc4 that I would love to sell because they are kinda of short for me.

then get some used 165 ish twins and your set
post #5 of 13
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
I would buy 2 pairs of ski in fact I have some 170cm Rc4 that I would love to sell because they are kinda of short for me.

then get some used 165 ish twins and your set
That would definitely be the perfect set up in his case, except for the price :.

I would recommend that you try a couple pairs of Twins and a couple pairs of traditional shaped skis.

Twins:
K2 Extreme (public Enemy for 09')
Dynastar Troublemaker
Salomon Lord

Traditional:
Volkl Tigershark 10ft
Dynastar Contact Limited
Fischer Progessor

I think what you will find is that obviously the traditional shaped skis will have more edge grip and more performance. Where as the Twins may lack in performance the make up in playfulness.
post #6 of 13
I have just turned 17 and weigh the same weight, but with me I am unlikely to bulk up.

I would recomend two skis (unfortunatly both very expensive, but buying last years stock will halve the price and we know how little skis change year to year).

Atomic Metron B5, do everything, short radius turns and holds up well at speed. Own two pairs 152 and 162, would recomend 162's.

Fischer Progressor, more aggressive and very fast. Can handle moguls and off piste (just...) but for groomed artificial snow (I spend my life skiing on it in AUS) it is amazing!!!
post #7 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the help everyone.
I was thinking of looking for the Volkl Bridge, and the 4FRNT STL.

Basically, an all-mountain ski that is a twin-tip, that picks up speed is what would be perfect for me.

Do you think the Bridge and STL would be good?

Thanks,
Greg
post #8 of 13
hey smug
im your age and
i was on the wall last season...i liked it a lot. i ski the park and i ski pow trees etc. i liked it a lot. i may move to the trouble maker. i dont have money for 2 pairs of skis so these are my only pair
post #9 of 13

I would agree with the others that the

Public Enemy would be a good ski. At your height a 179cm would be a good length but for terrain park a 169cm would be better. I have skied the
Vokl Bridge 177cm but found them too wide for groomed slopes but it is a better crud buster than a Public Enemy. Even if you have to buy second
hand there is no better ski for a groomed slope than a race ski as they offer the best edge grip plus superior vibration damping on ice. I prefer
GS Race Skis, being almost as tall as you and ski a GS Race ski in a 188cm
length. However if the groomed slopes are always crowded a Slalom race
ski 165cm would be a better buy for manovering around other traffic on the slope. You may need to buy better boots when you upgrade your skis
especially going longer as the longer skis made my boots quite loose.
post #10 of 13
Thread Starter 
I think I may keep my eyes peeled for Volkl Walls, K2 Public Enemy's,
post #11 of 13
hey man, i'm alittle older than you (college) and i recently picked up the bridges. i go to school in pa (but live ma) so i know what its like. The bridges rip it up. If your a good enough skier and want to put them on edge then they'll hold. I'm not really a fan of them in the bumps but i personally dislike the bumps so w/e. Anyway they're stiffer than the wall which is definitely more of a park ski. SO it really matters what you're looking for, but for very crowded slopes, honestly they require alot of work but they're alot of fun (and they look sick).

I would atleast recommend demoing them out.
post #12 of 13

TMs?

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Originally Posted by s0nyskiwer_(jib) View Post
hey smug
im your age and
i was on the wall last season...i liked it a lot. i ski the park and i ski pow trees etc. i liked it a lot. i may move to the trouble maker. i dont have money for 2 pairs of skis so these are my only pair
Sierra Jim still has the TMs available for $209

http://www.sierrasnowboard.com/Dynas...ited-17809.asp
post #13 of 13
just to toss out names you may try the Armada Pipecleaners
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