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post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
We will be going to Park City and Deer Valley for a week of skiing next February. We are advanced beginners and lower intermediates. Can someone give us advice on which trails at each resort would be good for us, something not too narrow, for sure no moguls. Also, the same info for The Canyons would be great. I realize that this is not the time many will be monitoring this sight, so any help in the next months will be appreciaed.
post #2 of 21
Hard to go wrong at the Park City resorts for your level. At Deer Valley, Success is an easy green. As far as the blues, if you're an intermediate, just stay off the double blues and you should be fine. Everything should be groomed, so no mogul worries. As for PCMR, Homerun is a very long wide green cruiser that even the beginners should be able to handle. Once again, hard to go wrong with the blues which for the most part will be groomed. The King Con chair has a bunch of easy blue cruisers. The only thing to watch out for at the Canyons is that they are very short on green runs.Plenty of easy blues, but only one chair has greens.
I just bought a 3BR condo in Park City, so if that size fits your group, feel free to send me a private message.
post #3 of 21
Thread Starter 

Easy Utah Skiing Help

Thanks for the help. What are the names of some easy blues at The Canyons?
post #4 of 21
Give Alta a try it has the easiest greens and blue in the Wasatch not to mention the views are superior than the PC resorts.
post #5 of 21
Boa off Super Condor,Snow Dancer off saddleback express, Harmony, which is a long trail that takes you from bottom of Dreamscape to bottom of Tombstone. Usually there is one groomer off Dreamscape which is pretty easy. I also agree with BushwacKer that Alta has nice cruisers in both green and blue. He is also right that it's more beautiful than Park City areas. Brighton also has lots of easy and fun cruisers. Great scenery as well. Snowbird is probably not a good choice for your level. Solitude is nice, but I think a fair amt of it may seem steep to you folks.
post #6 of 21
Thread Starter 
Thanks to both for the help. I appreciate all the advice I can get. I am also wondering how the Park City town lift works, like if we stay at the base of the mountain can we ride the town lift into Park City when we don't have our skis and boots, or is that only for when you are skiing? Maybe it would be better to ride the shuttle bus into town?
post #7 of 21
The town lift is pretty much just to get you from what's called Old Town in Park City up on PCMR mountain. As far as staying at base (I assume you mean PCMR) you can either stay at base in Old Town somewhere near Main street or at main base near PayDay lift. If you stay near PayDay, you cannot use Town lift to get to town(unless you're sking). As you know, there is a bus system to get you various areas in Park City.
post #8 of 21
You will certainly get a lot of useful answers here, but another very good resource for the kinds of questions you're posing would be The Unofficial Guide to Skiing and Snowboarding in the West by Lito Tejada-Flores ( http://www.amazon.com/Unofficial-Gui...5449791&sr=1-2 )

A few years old now but still very helpful info -- five or six detailed pages on how to approach ski resorts all over the west - how the lifts and lodges are laid out, where you'll find whatever kind of terrain you're looking for, etc., along with basic trail and lift maps. I've never used it for Park City but have used it to make plans and get my bearings at several other mountains - always pretty accurate.
post #9 of 21
Thread Starter 
Thanks to all. I will get the book, also. It is sounding like Deer Valley might be better for us than Park City, but I know that depends on the weather, conditions and crowds, also.
post #10 of 21
This is just my 2 cents, but I see this a lot. Especially with DV. People will come to Utah and never ski anywhere but DV. I know it's just my personal preference, but with 9 ski areas within a 45 minute drive, that seems somewhat limiting. However, that's just me. I'll grant you at your level, you should probably skip Snowbird, but PCMR, Alta,Snowbasin, and Brighton would all be great. Even The Canyons would be good as long as you don't have people who can ski only greens. But that's just me.
post #11 of 21
Speaking of Park City resorts...

I think my fiance and I have decided on Park City for our honeymoon. For some reason I couldn't convince her that going to Jackson Hole in early January so I could attend the Steep and Deep camp was a good way to spend our time "together".

In any case, the last time I has a lesson, I was quantified as a level 8-ish skier. My fiance is an intermediate, she had 20 days last season and really came on quickly. I want to go to Utah or Wyoming so I could some of the big mountain stuff I can't get in Tahoe. I'll probably do a snowcat day and a backcountry guide day.

I just can't decide on what resort to go to. I did not like the accomodation options at Alta/Snowbird. I also have a lot of Marriot points burning a hole in my pocket so Park City mountain resort is attractive, but I don't hear as many good things about it as I do DV/Canyons/Alta. Anyone have some comments? Should I just learn to love the Alta accomodations because its worth it?

Also, I plan on bringing only my 96mm Mantras, good choice for the typical early January conditions?

Thanks!
post #12 of 21
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Speaking of Park City resorts...

I think my fiance and I have decided on Park City for our honeymoon. For some reason I couldn't convince her that going to Jackson Hole in early January so I could attend the Steep and Deep camp was a good way to spend our time "together".

In any case, the last time I has a lesson, I was quantified as a level 8-ish skier. My fiance is an intermediate, she had 20 days last season and really came on quickly. I want to go to Utah or Wyoming so I could some of the big mountain stuff I can't get in Tahoe. I'll probably do a snowcat day and a backcountry guide day.

I just can't decide on what resort to go to. I did not like the accomodation options at Alta/Snowbird. I also have a lot of Marriot points burning a hole in my pocket so Park City mountain resort is attractive, but I don't hear as many good things about it as I do DV/Canyons/Alta. Anyone have some comments? Should I just learn to love the Alta accomodations because its worth it?

Also, I plan on bringing only my 96mm Mantras, good choice for the typical early January conditions?

Thanks!
KGC, you sure she wants to ski for a honeymoon or is she making you happy? If you two are not on the same level skiing wise both of you will be frustrated, you wanting to hit all the hard stuff and her wanting to enjoy the place and not push it all the time. maybe I'm underestimating her ability sorry if I am. I did the Utah honeymoon thing (16 years ago) also and while my wife was a good sport about it I have had to pay up with 2 trips to St. Lucia in the last 7 years, while they were fun I would have rather used the money for a heli trip, If you do go take a day or 2 and go down to Bryce canyon for the incredible scenery and some nice hiking. That will be remembered far longer than skiing some groomers together. If you do go to Alta get some action photos taken by the pro there, Dobba, well worth the money and he will find you some great stuff to ski. good luck and remember it is her honeymoon also.
post #13 of 21
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Originally Posted by KGC123 View Post
Speaking of Park City resorts...

I think my fiance and I have decided on Park City for our honeymoon. For some reason I couldn't convince her that going to Jackson Hole in early January so I could attend the Steep and Deep camp was a good way to spend our time "together".

In any case, the last time I has a lesson, I was quantified as a level 8-ish skier. My fiance is an intermediate, she had 20 days last season and really came on quickly. I want to go to Utah or Wyoming so I could some of the big mountain stuff I can't get in Tahoe. I'll probably do a snowcat day and a backcountry guide day.

I just can't decide on what resort to go to. I did not like the accomodation options at Alta/Snowbird. I also have a lot of Marriot points burning a hole in my pocket so Park City mountain resort is attractive, but I don't hear as many good things about it as I do DV/Canyons/Alta. Anyone have some comments? Should I just learn to love the Alta accomodations because its worth it?

Also, I plan on bringing only my 96mm Mantras, good choice for the typical early January conditions?

Thanks!
Mantras will work might not be 'optimal" for the day but they will work as for skiing. For both of you Alta is the best resort, for you Snowbird is the best resort.
post #14 of 21
I don't get the "I don't like the accomodation option at alta/snowbird" goldminers daughter is a stumble to a lift,great food ,nice rooms and wonderful staff.must have missed the cliff lodge at snowbird!!
post #15 of 21
KGC, stay in Park City area somewhere very nice so you can take advantage of cosy restaurants etc, I think the ambiance will be a lot more conducive to honeymooning than Alta/Snowbird. Treat the bride to a day off at a day spa and use the opportunity to take the bus across to Alta, or do the interconnect tour. Then you'll both have something new to talk about over dinner that night.
post #16 of 21
About the whole "didn't like the accommodations" at Alta comment had a bit to do with being a bit isolated vs the stuff in Park City. While my fiancé is a great sport and is as gung-ho as I am about the skiing honeymoon, I'm sure she would prefer to be in a small town. Either way I'll check out the Cliff Lodge at Snowbird.

If the Mantra is not the ideal ski, what would be? Something a bit wider? My gear buying knows no bounds so please, please give me an excuse to get some Gotamas or XXLs!

Strangely enough even though my Fiancé and I ski at very different levels, she is usually pretty happy improving on her own. We will usually enroll her in a clinic/class of some sort so she has company and remains engaged. Beyond that, she's pretty competitive and wants to get better each day so she can join me on the fun stuff. We also make sure to meet for lunch and rendezvous every few hours so she can demonstrate what she's learned and I can provide a little encouragement. In all, getting her lessons (as many of you recommend) has been a huge help in getting her as excited about skiing as I am, and certainly worth the money. Oh, that and an Arcteryx Patriot jacket. Nothing would have kept her off the slope faster than being cold!
post #17 of 21
Diversue1

My parents are mid to late 60s and learned to ski late in life. They really liked Deer Valley in the past having taken a couple of trips there. But, this last year we took them to PCMR and they loved riding the Silverlode chair and doing loops on Homerun to Claim Jumper. They had trouble with the viz one day, and went down to the Pay Day lift and enjoyed Homerun and Drift to Blanche. At The Canyons about 4 years ago, they managed the blue off the Saddleback lift quite well, except for a bit of a steep pitch on skier's right at the top of Kokopelli. Snowdancer was nice for them as well as the beginner runs off HIgh Meadow lift. Sidewinder would not be a good idea for a low intermediate. They did not like the new terrain in the Lady Morgan area. I liked Argus, but not worth staying over there for since there wasn't much for them. They really like Trump, Ontario, off the Quincy Express and Bandana. Blue Bell might be really cool, but I think there was a part of it towards the bottom that was bumped up pretty good last time I was there.
post #18 of 21
[quote=KGC123;924670]About the whole "didn't like the accommodations" at Alta comment had a bit to do with being a bit isolated vs the stuff in Park City. While my fiancé is a great sport and is as gung-ho as I am about the skiing honeymoon, I'm sure she would prefer to be in a small town. Either way I'll check out the Cliff Lodge at Snowbird.





KGC- She'll be happier at Park City, IMHO. You can make an easy day trip to Alta, Snowbird, Sundance or Snowbasin with great sceanery the whole way. Don't mess with the Honeymoon. I used to call the Cliff Lodge Camp Pendelton because of all the gnarly dudes there- It's a swell place to take a date, do the spa and dinner at the Aerie, but that's about all there is except skiing. Park City is pretty magical in winter (hell, anytime) and the Marriot is great. January is great. The Mantra's are all you'll need- great groomer ski for a fattie and very good in powder. Can get tossed in wet crud but there won't be any of that. Congratulations.

Maui; So, now that you're a local, we can tell you where the Windy Ridge restaurant is..

Diversue1: There's lots of stuff to ski in your level. DV of course, Alta is good with the Albion and Sunnyside chairs, Snowbasin has lots of terrain, and Sundance, in addition to being perhaps the most beautiful of Utah's resorts, is about half beginner/intermediate. It's certainly worth a day trip. Park City's winter website has a feature where you type in your level and preferences and they show you an entire day's skiing, within your ability, ranging over the whole resort. The trails are really wide everywhere in Utah except at The Canyons. Mr. Otten and his Vermonters cut them narrow for some reason.
post #19 of 21
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Speaking of Park City resorts...

... I also have a lot of Marriot points burning a hole in my pocket so Park City mountain resort is attractive, but I don't hear as many good things about it as I do DV/Canyons/Alta. ...
I used 230k Marriott points the first week of Feb. this year for 2 rooms at the Park City Marriott. There was a decent breakfast in the concierge lounge and appetizers in the evening. The Marriott runs a shuttle in the morning to DV and PCMR, but not to The Canyons. However, the city has a fantastic bus system to get you to any of the 3 mountains. There is a bus stop just outside the door (the side door). It's very convenient and sometimes a better bet when trying to get back to the Marriott. The bus is also a great means of transport to Main Street for dinner. About $20 for a taxi for door-to-door service is a nice luxury esp. on your honeymoon and I think I still have the card for the guy we used. Give him a call when you done eating and he'll came back and get you. He was who the Marriott got for us the first night I wanted a taxi. I just stuck with him the whole week. There must be some funny liquor laws in Utah (haha) because I went to the bar in hotel to get a scotch to take back to the room and the bartender said I couldn't take the drink out of the bar. But, there is this really funny service in the evening... a guy brings a cart around to all the rooms offering a glass of wine and maybe beer, but we just got glasses of wine. Pool and hottub are both inside, but they are ok. The place is 3 star at the most, but very comfortable, convenient and the staff was great. Let me know if you have more questions.
post #20 of 21
Thread Starter 
Kim, thanks a lot, that is exactly our situation. We are in mid sixties and learned to ski late in life, so will never be or want to be hot shot skiers, just enjoy the sport in an easy going way. Your advice will be very useful. Mr. Crab had good points also, we should try Sundance. I wonder if the free bus goes over there, as we will be using a shuttle from airport to PCMR this time.
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I wonder if the free bus goes over there, as we will be using a shuttle from airport to PCMR this time.
Nope.
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