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post #31 of 44
The one week-long trip I ever took, my buddy and I threw our skis on the rack and headed west, letting serendipity make our choices for us. Some days we were on the road for 30 minutes before we knew where we were going to end up. Makes life more exciting when everything is a surprise.
post #32 of 44
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Originally Posted by bmg97 View Post
Hi Guys, been reading along since the first post on this thread. Just curious. Do most of you call a travel agent or put your own package together? Not sure how to go about it. I am in the same boat. Trying to plan a trip to Lake Tahoe and I am just trying to get as much info as possible before I start calling to make arrangements.

Put your own package together, unless you have a travel agent who knows what you like to ski and has been to all the areas. Better yet, ask a ski buddy where, what and when. why give a travel agent a commission when no doubt there's someone nearby who'd LOVE to talk skiing over the dreadful summer months.

I typically stay where there's multiple areas for a couple of reasons. One is that it gives you a chance to try different things on different days within a reasonably short drive (I-70 in CO, SLC, or Tahoe), and if the conditions aren't good at one place, you can go elsewhere where they may have something better - it's worked multiple times for me.
post #33 of 44
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Put your own package together, unless you have a travel agent who knows what you like to ski and has been to all the areas. Better yet, ask a ski buddy where, what and when. why give a travel agent a commission when no doubt there's someone nearby who'd LOVE to talk skiing over the dreadful summer months.

I typically stay where there's multiple areas for a couple of reasons. One is that it gives you a chance to try different things on different days within a reasonably short drive (I-70 in CO, SLC, or Tahoe), and if the conditions aren't good at one place, you can go elsewhere where they may have something better - it's worked multiple times for me.
Sounds like a plan. My biggest problem is where to stay and what is the best time of the year to go. You know, 6 feet of fresh snow and no one but me on the mountain I have been reading and reading on here and TGR. I am pretty much doing all the planning so if I pick a crappy place to stay Im gonna catch some.... you know. Is it worth it to rent a car while in Lake Tahoe or can we pretty much get around with public trans ? Sorry, don't mean to turn this into my thread. I am not familiar with that area at all and the last time I skied out west was at Vail when I was 16.
post #34 of 44
My ski destination choices are driven by 1) personal interest, 2) traveling companions, 3) miscellaneous emerging opportunities.

to bmg: I think many of us who have been on more than a handful of trips find it cheaper and more flexible to make our own arrangements. Package providers like moguls.com or ski-europe.com can, however, get you a good deal on medium to high budget trips. I usually travel with a posse of friends/family members so not too motivated towards club trips, but they are another way to get some deals and hook-up with new ski buddies. If you get heavy into Search function on this website there are many money saving travel threads on lodging, tickets, flights, rental cars, etc. I use travelocity, orbitz, etc to scout flight, car, lodging deals, but perhaps go direct to specific providers to verify good prices. VRBO.com is good for condo rental deals. There are some hostels scattered around ski country (Taos, Jackson, winter park, etc) with ultra low priced beds. Some people use EBAY to score cheap lift tics/vouchers. One recurring axiom about inexpensive lodging is to look for any good ski destination that draws even more tourists in summer, making for winter room glut; examples Jackson, WY, South Lake Tahoe, and perhaps North Conway, NH. Use reward points earned from credit cards, frequent flyer programs, and various other means for flight and lodging discounts.
post #35 of 44
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Sounds like a plan. My biggest problem is where to stay and what is the best time of the year to go. You know, 6 feet of fresh snow and no one but me on the mountain I have been reading and reading on here and TGR. I am pretty much doing all the planning so if I pick a crappy place to stay Im gonna catch some.... you know. Is it worth it to rent a car while in Lake Tahoe or can we pretty much get around with public trans ? Sorry, don't mean to turn this into my thread. I am not familiar with that area at all and the last time I skied out west was at Vail when I was 16.
My suggestion for fresh with nobody around - Utah in early April - I always end up with big dumps and empty parking lots. Snowbird, Alta, Canyons (sorry - guilty pleasure), Snowbasin, Solitude.......

Tahoe you'll need a car. Fly in-out of San Fran and drive (3 hours in) - often cheaper enough to half-finance another trip depending on where you're coming from.
post #36 of 44
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My suggestion for fresh with nobody around - Utah in early April - I always end up with big dumps and empty parking lots. Snowbird, Alta, Canyons (sorry - guilty pleasure), Snowbasin, Solitude.......

Tahoe you'll need a car. Fly in-out of San Fran and drive (3 hours in) - often cheaper enough to half-finance another trip depending on where you're coming from.
I would love to go to Utah but we are looking into LT because no one has been there yet. We are coming from NYC. I only just started reading into this about three weeks ago. Trying to get as much info as I can. That way when its time to start booking I know what the hell I'm doing. I have been searching but lots of posts are years old. So that doesn't really help with lodging since places change and so do crowds.
post #37 of 44
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TC go for winter park and mary jane. I had a chance to ski there and I am not a great bump skier, spent the whole week at the jane and loved it. a nice little find by chance and will definitely go back. you just never know if you don,t take that opp that comes your way.
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scrolling down, I saw this- I hate bumps and loved the bumps at the Jane. They're huge. They're covered in soft pow, and there's some of the best freakin trees I've ever seen, hands down.

Thumbs down for the 6 pack to the bowl, tho- if you aren't stopped by avi traffic on berthoud pass you may actually get to touch something fresh.

Grab me a trail map when you go, please- it's the only one missing from my CO mtn bedroom wall collage to remind myself of why I work so damn hard. I have Breck, Vail and Keystone, but there's a big, empty space where Mary Jane should be- and no, the MJ in the jar on my bureau just won't cut it.
I still have about 3-4 maps from this past season. I found one in my equipment bag yesterday from when I cleaned out my locker. I have some old filled out payslips too. I can send you one - a map.

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Thanks darent. I'm definitely going to MJ. Bumpfreaq is just jerking my chain, because he wants to keep the place to himself.
I may tell Ski Patrol that you two are known trouble-makers.

I got my re-hire letter the other week.
post #38 of 44
No matter how well off or not you are, cost is the #1 factor (if it werent then there would be nothing to think about you'd go to them all).
2) time
3) conditions
4) fun for all members in the party
5) availability
6) distance
post #39 of 44
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No matter how well off or not you are, cost is the #1 factor (if it werent then there would be nothing to think about you'd go to them all).
2) time
3) conditions
4) fun for all members in the party
5) availability
6) distance
I'm certainly not all that well-off, but I'd dispute that cost is the #1 factor. Rather, I'd say it's "value". That's a bit different than cost - for instance, if I'm just looking at cost considerations, I'd stay close to home and ski at Whitetail for a week. I can definitely do that more cheaply than any other option, but it doesn't really present "value" to me, mostly because it would fail other criteria (reliability of conditions, variety of terrain, etc).

There's some point at which the higher cost of an option is balanced by the perceived value of that option, meaning that the cost:value ratio can be more favorable than for a less expensive (less valuable) option.

I'd say that out of that list, cost needs to be balanced against everything else you've listed. And, more importantly, "value" is very subjective - I may value different things than you (see the McSkiing thread for a heated discussion of that very point), meaning that my best choice could be different than yours...


aaron
post #40 of 44
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I may tell Ski Patrol that you two are known trouble-makers.

I got my re-hire letter the other week.
Uh oh!
post #41 of 44
I would agree that cost is always a top factor, even if you address as scootertig does as value. Yes, it is subjective, but we're kind of talking about the same thing: getting the most bang for your buck.

Cost has certainly played a large role in my decisions for the coming season.

I was about to book a Christmas/New Years trip to Laax, Switzerland and also expore a few smaller resorts in the area. But after getting reemed on airfare to the US this summer, we've book Bad Gastein, Austria instead for about €400 less.

All things being equal, I'd rather be going to Switzerland, but that's not how it's turned out.

Other factors for me (besides the obvious: how good is the skiing):

Convenience of Travel: ideally, I'd like to catch a flight after work and be in the resort that night, and then be able to catch an evening flight back on the return. This can get me two additional days on the snow over other locations. This limits my options greatly, though.

Cross Country Options: my girlfriend is a cross country skier, and I enjoy it too, so we need to go places with both downhill and cross country skiing (and more than just a token couple km).

Snow Reliability: I generally have to book in advance for specific dates, so finding a place with a good snow record is important. I don't have the luxury of waiting until the last minute (flights get too expensive).
post #42 of 44
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I would agree that cost is always a top factor, even if you address as scootertig does as value. Yes, it is subjective, but we're kind of talking about the same thing: getting the most bang for your buck.
No, for us Americans, sometimes TIME is the #1 issue.

When you ONLY have TWO weeks vacation a year, you want to be SURE that the week or two you're skiing is maximized for best condition and terrain or whatever else you desire. If it comes at a higher cost, even significantly higher cost, it'll be worthwhile (as long as you can afford it, that is). So, instead of "most bang for the buck", it's "most bang for the day"!

In fact, the way I look at it. Since I really only get 2 weeks to burn off the money I make in a year, I can afford to go to the best place for snow. I'd rather economize by staying at a cheaper motel instead of a 4* lodge and eat peanut butter sandwich for lunch (AND DINNER) for a week, if that's what it takes to ski say, Vail/BC or Apsen or Jackson Hole etc. And since time is of greater value, I would pay more to fly as direct as possible to these out of way places instead of making 3 or 4 connections to save a few bucks.

That was exacly what I did in my younger days and I would have do it again if I find myself in the same situation (good pay with little vacation time). But fortunately, I have a lot more flexibility in vacation days now. (or rather, I choose to sacrefies pay for more time off) So I actually NEED to be cost concious or I run out of money before I use up my vacation time.
post #43 of 44
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No, for us Americans, sometimes TIME is the #1 issue.

When you ONLY have TWO weeks vacation a year, you want to be SURE that the week or two you're skiing is maximized for best condition and terrain or whatever else you desire. If it comes at a higher cost, even significantly higher cost, it'll be worthwhile (as long as you can afford it, that is). So, instead of "most bang for the buck", it's "most bang for the day"!

In fact, the way I look at it. Since I really only get 2 weeks to burn off the money I make in a year, I can afford to go to the best place for snow. I'd rather economize by staying at a cheaper motel instead of a 4* lodge and eat peanut butter sandwich for lunch (AND DINNER) for a week, if that's what it takes to ski say, Vail/BC or Apsen or Jackson Hole etc. And since time is of greater value, I would pay more to fly as direct as possible to these out of way places instead of making 3 or 4 connections to save a few bucks.

That was exacly what I did in my younger days and I would have do it again if I find myself in the same situation (good pay with little vacation time). But fortunately, I have a lot more flexibility in vacation days now. (or rather, I choose to sacrefies pay for more time off) So I actually NEED to be cost concious or I run out of money before I use up my vacation time.
I have a lot of vacation time so it's not such a big deal, but the long weekends in and out of SLC are a great way to minimize # of days taken.
post #44 of 44
Only factors for me is time/length and who I bring. Pepsi/Mtn Dew has expanded vastly in the past few years, and SnoCountry (other partner) works/gets passes for all that is not covered by Pepsi. Plane tickets can become a factor, but my dad usually gives me 2 trips a year.
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