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post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Looking for a twin-tip for Tag Jr. He currently rides the Volkl Legend in a 168 length. He is a level 9 skier, about 5'-6", 140 lbs. He likes the twin tips as he very occassionally wanders into the terrain park. Mostly he uses them as his powder/back bowl skis. From my perspective, the ski needs to really rip in the pow, be respectible when crossing the groomers, and has just enough upturn on the tail, so when he goes to the park to play, he can ski backwards. He, on the other hand, turns up his nose at anything less than a true twin tip. Haven't done too much digging yet, but it seems that most of the twins that are short enough for him are too much Park skis and not enough all-mountain skis, while the all-mountain twins don't come short enough for a small light skier. Wondering what skis the Bears might recommend?

Thx.
post #2 of 14
Surprisingly it is becoming more and more common to find shorter all mountain twins. You have everything from Dynastar Big Troubles and Volkl Bridges to Atomic Pimps and Volkl Gotamas with all kinds of stuff in between that would work great for him as well. What width waist are you looking for, I assume something between 90-105???
post #3 of 14
Thread Starter 
I was thinking somthing 100 or less. Really deep pow days are more the exception than the rule. I'm looking for something that will handle the 8 - 18" dumps, and won't mind the cut-up chop at the end of the day or the dealing with the groomed to powder stash back to groomed two days later. Tag Jr skis hard and fast, but is relatively short and light. I'd look at a Volkl AC 4 or something similar, but again, he really thinks he needs true twin tips. From what I've seen elsewhere, I'm guessing that something 85mm and above in waist size would need to be 165 or less in height for him. His GS race skis are only 173's.
post #4 of 14
If you want to stay in the Volkl lineup, the Bridge could fit your requirements quite nicely. I have not been on the Bridge, but have heard good things about it. It is 92mm underfoot, and is available in 161, 169, 177, 185. And remember, twin tips tend to ski shorter than their true length.
post #5 of 14
You should definitely check out the Volkl Bridge, Dynastar Big Trouble, Atomic Snoop Daddy(Twin for 2009), and the Prophet 90. All of them will come in reasonable sizes for Tag Jr. The BT, Snoop and Bridge all of relatively similar shapes being that they are more GS oriented where as the Bridge is more shaped. Personally I prefer a ski with less shape off trail because it feels less turny, but on trail a ski with more shape will feel like it has more grip.
post #6 of 14
no love for the Head Mojo90, aslo the new Hart twisted series.
post #7 of 14
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no love for the Head Mojo90, aslo the new Hart twisted series.
WOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRD! Mojo 90= amazing. Love mine more than I can describe. I'm getting more into air, but I love them for how they slay every damn thing on the mountain. Pop for days, light and agile as hell. Loves the freshies and will encourage airtime. Definitely check it out! I'm 5'9", 165 and ski the 176- very manageable.
post #8 of 14
Line Blend or Line Chronic. Good combination of park and all-mountain. If he's turning his nose up at anything less than a "true" twin tip, then go for these. Plus, there are some cheap summer deals on Lines, so you won't have to fork up a lot of money.

Line Prophet 90's are great but more all-mountain and not really great in the park.
post #9 of 14
Thread Starter 

Supercharger Enforcer

Thanks for the suggestions so far. Wondering from the reviews I've read, if the Nordica Enforcer should be in the mix. It's a bit wider than most of the skis mentioned so far, but still seems to have a good sidecut and turning radius. Concerned that every review here at Epic has been by someone tall and over 200 lbs, which makes me wonder if, even in a smaller size, how the ski will handle for a short lightweight skier. Any thoughts? Also, I know I've seen it posted, but cannot find it now, so could someone explain the "Ride" and "Air" biniding positions and the reasoning behind selecting one over the other?

Thx.
post #10 of 14
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no love for the Head Mojo90,
Course not. They suck
post #11 of 14
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Originally Posted by Tag View Post
Thanks for the suggestions so far. Wondering from the reviews I've read, if the Nordica Enforcer should be in the mix. It's a bit wider than most of the skis mentioned so far, but still seems to have a good sidecut and turning radius. Concerned that every review here at Epic has been by someone tall and over 200 lbs, which makes me wonder if, even in a smaller size, how the ski will handle for a short lightweight skier. Any thoughts? Also, I know I've seen it posted, but cannot find it now, so could someone explain the "Ride" and "Air" biniding positions and the reasoning behind selecting one over the other?

Thx.
If I remember correctly its not a true twin. I've skied it. The air line is about 2 cm forward of the ride line but is still back from center. The "air" line will lend itself to park skiing more, the ride will lend itself more to powder.
post #12 of 14
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Course not. They suck
Phil, you can say you can't ski them or your don't like them, but I have never seen a post nor heard anyone say they suck. Are you 16? that would make sense.....
post #13 of 14
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Phil, you can say you can't ski them or your don't like them, but I have never seen a post nor heard anyone say they suck. Are you 16? that would make sense.....
They are too stiff for what they are designed for. They center of the sidecut & mount point are way too far forward. They flex weird. Might as well get an im88. much better ski.
post #14 of 14
They are a little stiff but for "all mountain" and limited park, its a good balance. It's good in moderate powder, good on groomed and good in bumps. For pure park, you are correct though
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