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post #1 of 55
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is like cheating, you go faster no matter what even on the cheapest of bikes.

My riding partner today was extra tired 'he kept saying he was out of it". he wasnt, in fact he was probably was faster than normal. My secert? the ghetto-single speed is a XC sprint terror. Super fast uphill and out of tight turns and just feels 'connected" to the trail.

To anyone out there that has the energy and strenght, I would highly suggest having a SS bike in your stable in fact I might be sold after a couple weeks to get one myself. I might even sell my Trance for something slightly less ghetto.
post #2 of 55
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
My riding partner today was extra tired 'he kept saying he was out of it". he wasnt, in fact he was probably was faster than normal.
Your riding partner is old....
post #3 of 55
Welcome to the club...

I've been singlespeeding nearly exclusively for the past year and just finished up my spring race series (got a win last night! wohoo!) racing in singlespeed sport class. (will be bumping up to singlespeed expert class in the fall to see if I can hang).
post #4 of 55
This is soooooooooooo ironic. When riding with Volklgirl on Wednesday Night, she convinced me to switch bikes, and try her SS. OMG!
She is, now, looking for a frame to build Trekchick a SS!!!!
post #5 of 55
I don't get it. Sorry. I have an SS for my dirtjump bike, and it's fine for that, but on trail, no thanks. I have friends who have them, and they would always use them as an excuse not to ride places they used to ride when they had gears. "Oh, I don't want to ride Waterbury, I'm on an SS"
post #6 of 55
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Originally Posted by epic View Post
I don't get it.
You're a spinner, aintcha?
post #7 of 55
Let's just say I like to use ALL the gears. I paid for them, didn't I?
post #8 of 55
FWIW - I also don't "get" baggy shorts and army color everything. Or flat pedals. Maybe I'm just getting old.
post #9 of 55
You can convert your geared bike to a single speed by putting the chain on the desired cog/chainring combination and screwing in the derailleur limit screws.
post #10 of 55
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Originally Posted by epic View Post
I don't get it. Sorry. I have an SS for my dirtjump bike, and it's fine for that, but on trail, no thanks. I have friends who have them, and they would always use them as an excuse not to ride places they used to ride when they had gears. "Oh, I don't want to ride Waterbury, I'm on an SS"
I'll grant you that Michigan Hills don't compare to Vermont Mountains, but Volklgirl has been on a SS most of the summer, and does everything with it that she does with her HT and FS.
The technique may be a bit different, but the weight of the SS is amazingly light and a blast to Rip!

Telerod, you may be able to use your bike like a SS by doing what you talked about but the weight of a true SS lends to a considerable amount of fun.

I think VG has a pic of me and her on the SS's on Wed.
Yup, TC is getting herself quite the bike quiver!
post #11 of 55
I'm just sayin' for all the "holier than though" attitude that some SSers have, they sure are particular about where they ride them.

Unlike the SSers, I'm not here to convert you. Ride whatever you want. I don't care.
post #12 of 55
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I'm just sayin' for all the "holier than though" attitude that some SSers have, they sure are particular about where they ride them.
Do I smell a challenge?
post #13 of 55
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post
The technique may be a bit different, but the weight of the SS is amazingly light and a blast to Rip!!

Now I'm confused. : If you're strong enough to ride single, why do you need the weight savings??
post #14 of 55
If they're having fun it doesn't have to make sense.
post #15 of 55
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Now I'm confused. : If you're strong enough to ride single, why do you need the weight savings??
Confused
Where in any of that did I say I NEED weight savings?
I said it was a blast and I had fun on it, realizing that it was a lot lighter and fun, fun fun!

I don't need a FS but I love it for some of the riding I do.
I could have fun for the rest of my riding days on my HT.
I could invest in a SS to add to the quiver and have fun on all three!!
post #16 of 55
Just trying to understand the draw, is all.


I mean, you can still coast, right?
post #17 of 55
You can convert any bike to an ss by keeping your itchy little fingers off the shifters. OTOH, I just got the ultimate poser fixie -- a Specialized Langster -- and it is very interesting on flat roads and paths. One big disadvantage: I'm not strong enough to get back up the hills to home from the places I like to ride it -- it's a 44-16 -- so I have to take it out in the car. But then I'm old.
post #18 of 55
btw - the SSers are always saying taht thier bikes are more efficient, superior, etc. If that were the case though, wouldn't the Single Speed World Championships just be called the World Championships. If the things were faster, wouldn't Julien Absalon have one?
post #19 of 55
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You can convert any bike to an ss by keeping your itchy little fingers off the shifters. OTOH, I just got the ultimate poser fixie -- a Specialized Langster -- and it is very interesting on flat roads and paths.
Sweet. You sneaking up on unsuspecting pulley-noise-expecting runners yet?

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One big disadvantage: I'm not strong enough to get back up the hills to home from the places I like to ride it -- it's a 44-16 -- so I have to take it out in the car. But then I'm old.
I stole a trick from those same runners: if I have headphones blasting I can't hear myself gasp. Hearing myself gasp and wheeze psychs me out. Ergo, to climb Elmer School Road in 48x16 all I need is spare batteries.

This summer I hope to get some honking D-cells for Manayunk.
post #20 of 55
One of my friends, and member of the WVMBA "dream team" rides a single speed quite frequently. He says "it forces me to keep my intensity up."

One of the things that I have noticed, racing against a good single speeder, is that they tend to be extremely good at pacing themselves through a race. I will sometimes Tail one through the majority of the race and then (try too) pass them on a climb or rough descent toward the end of the race.
post #21 of 55
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Originally Posted by epic View Post
btw - the SSers are always saying taht thier bikes are more efficient, superior, etc. If that were the case though, wouldn't the Single Speed World Championships just be called the World Championships. If the things were faster, wouldn't Julien Absalon have one?
C'mon, I know you're smarter than you're letting on.

A quiver of bikes for a frenzie of different types of riding fun, just like different skis for a frenzie of different types of skiing fun!

Don't be harshen my mellow!
post #22 of 55
Epic is just grumpy because his Lycra is too tight.
post #23 of 55
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You're a spinner, aintcha?
If your a spinner I would suggest a single speed at all. wouldnt fit how you ride.

I wouldnt call myself a 'single speeder' at all, I like to MTB. Is a high end single speed superior to high end gear biked(hardtail or FS) on trail, while has epic pointed out no, or people would be using them. Also remember that high end XC racers are quite often as close to roadie as you get in MTBing.

Let not talk about high end here, let talk about 300-600 dollars. I would be willing to bet for most strong riders out there in that price range a SS would be a much faster than geared bike.

telerod and evansilver a geared bike made to be single speed isnt the same, the sub 100 dollar bike I helped lonnie build that I have been borrowing weighs 20 lb. My geared trance weighs 26lb even though that light for a FS bike it stills feel very heavy compare to ghetto single speed.

On rides i would want my short travel geared bike over a Single Speed, yes there are some of them, I would probably allways keep a geared bike in my stable just because on longer rides it give you the ability to not have to push the whole time. Also even my puny 4inch travel trail bike is still fast downhill than most hardtail SS.
post #24 of 55
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Epic is just grumpy because his Lycra is too tight.
you forgot this >

Mr TC's description of Lycra bike shorts:
Small hotel..........No ballroom.

Whiteroom, do you have a single speed? If so, whats your suggestion for a good bike/frame to start with?
post #25 of 55
He may wear baggies, but he's not that crazy!

If you really want a SS, look for a Bianchi BOSS/BUSS/PUSS/whatever. That's a good place to start.
post #26 of 55
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post
you forgot this >

Whiteroom, do you have a single speed? If so, whats your suggestion for a good bike/frame to start with?
if your willing to pay up9relative term here) I would say any steel frame would be a good place, the singulator although not the cleanest look in the world is holding up fine.

since I remember you talking about sand all the time maybe a smaller framed 29er might be the way to go. Back in pa I remember some 5'4 thur 5'7 girls riding 29er with great success.

i would suggest a small one of these

http://www.surlybikes.com/karatemonkey.html

a new frame will run about 400 buck complete bikes are going for about 600-1000 ebay.

there are literally tons of already built up SS on ebay, and classified and such. Just decide which your looking for have the money and wait for it to sell if your not into the build from scratch thing.
post #27 of 55
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
telerod and evansilver a geared bike made to be single speed isnt the same, the sub 100 dollar bike I helped lonnie build that I have been borrowing weighs 20 lb. My geared trance weighs 26lb even though that light for a FS bike it stills feel very heavy compare to ghetto single speed.
Did you see the bike Christophe Sauser won the worlds on? 18ish pounds with 4" travel at both ends and disc brakes!
post #28 of 55
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Did you see the bike Christophe Sauser won the worlds on? 18ish pounds with 4" travel at both ends and disc brakes!
how much did it cost? way more than I or most could afford.

Given unlimited money sure a geared bike will be faster. But for very limited money a single speed will be the best option.

It should be noted I run 2.4 panaracers on my trance and that dropping a 1lb or 2 would be a tire change away.
post #29 of 55
Thanks for the input BW.
At this point, the plan is to build a SS with Volklgirl. In fact, she'll be doing the work with a teensy weensy bit of input from me.
*refer to my thread about not being a bike mechanic
post #30 of 55
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Did you see the bike Christophe Sauser won the worlds on? 18ish pounds with 4" travel at both ends and disc brakes!
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
how much did it cost? way more than I or most could afford.
Right. Cheap, light, strong. Pick any two.....
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