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Siena and St. Michael's colleges

post #1 of 22
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St. Michael's, VT and Siena, NY

Anyone familiar with these colleges? I have a skiing son who's a rising HS senior and might be interested in them as computer science major in Fall 2009.
post #2 of 22
I raced against St Michael's while at Colby, and the son of one of my Colby teammates races for St Michaels now. Colby has gone to Division I, which takes a lot of time and ability.

I don't know a thing about their computer science, but that's the sort of ski program I would recommend.
post #3 of 22
FWIW - I think I'd focus on the quality of the school and secondarily its CS program well ahead of the ski considerations...
post #4 of 22
Thread Starter 
Thanks.
I should add that my son's not into ski racing, but he might try just-for-fun club racing in the right environment. It's possible he's more likely to get into instructing or patrolling if he went to a school near decent skiing.
We're contemplating visiting these schools (among a batch of other catholic colleges) this summer and wonder if anyone had closehand knowledge of them from an academic and recreational skiing perspective.
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FWIW - I think I'd focus on the quality of the school and secondarily its CS program well ahead of the ski considerations...

yeah, yeah,

geesh, what are you a self appointed parent?

I skied my ass off in college, still got a masters degree in a science, found good jobs, retired well off in my 40's

Looking back, the best part about college was the skiing. Don't give me that education first crap, live a bit. College is hard enough without people telling you to be a monk.
post #6 of 22
I have a 2 nephew's and a niece that went to St Michaels, one nephew pitched for the varsity baseball team, the other played intermural basketball and the neice was a field hockey player. All got great, albiet expensive, educations and one of three is actually working in his major.

None skied, tho. oboe could chime in since it is in his back yard.

Sienna is a good school---not sure about any majors in particular. Not that close to any skiing---the pitcher wanted to play baseball there but eventually chose to go to St Mikes.
post #7 of 22
I graduated from St Mike's as did my two brothers. We all recieved an excellent education and thouroughly enjoyed going to school there. It's a great school in a beautiful area.
If you check it out I think you'll like what you see.

As for skiing:
Stowe, Sugarbush, Mad River, Smuggs all withing 45 minutes and Jay not too much further..can't beat that combo of mountains anywhere in the east.
post #8 of 22
Thread Starter 
This kind of info could severly bias the idea of an objective college search: http://www.smcvt.edu/smuggs/default.asp
post #9 of 22
Siena is a good school but not a big skiing school. St Michael's will attract skiers which makes for a healthy college environment.:
post #10 of 22
Lewis and Clark College, Portland, Oregon. No more to be said.
post #11 of 22
Skiing close to Siena is limited to Jiminy (45-60 mins), West Mtn (45-60 mins), Mt. Snow (75 mins) or Gore (75 mins). You're looking at 2 hours to real skiing.

Under an hour from St Mike's you have Stowe, Sugarbush, Smuggler's, MRG, and Bolton.

No brainer from a skiing perspective.

When I went to UVM in the late 70's/early 80's there were twice as many girls as guys at St. Mike's.
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Lewis and Clark College, Portland, Oregon. No more to be said.
My dad went to Lewis and Clark College. He'd take day trips with his college buddies up to Mt. Bachelor. Mt. Bachelor is just a great mountain!

I pass St. Michaels on my way to Smuggler's Notch and Stowe. I don't know much about it, but I am pretty sure it's a liberal arts college.
post #13 of 22
Well I hope I'm not old enough to know your dad, though I might be. Bachelor's a bit of a haul from Portland (though fine for a weekend), but Mt Hood Meadows is less than two hours away, or was back in the day.
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When I went to UVM in the late 70's/early 80's there were twice as many girls as guys at St. Mike's.
Yes, but...
post #15 of 22
St. Mike's seems to have become really popular and a "hot" school among applicants. From what we hear through a good number of current students and their families, the school's doing very well. As the NESCAC schools become increasingly more difficult to get into, schools like St. Mike's are an attractive New England alternative. By the way, the ski program is part of the EISA, the Eastern NCAA Division One league. They struggle, but they show up and compete, and host their own carnival every third year {perhaps every other now?} at Smuggs. They train at Smuggs. the skiers seem to enjoy it. Not a lot of pressure, from what I can tell.
post #16 of 22
Thread Starter 
Completed big college visits roadtrip, ranging from VA-NY-VT-PA-MD-OH and back to VA.
Siena was very impressive, nice campus just north of Albany, excellent open house program for prospective students. St. Mike's was very friendly, good student tour guide, and beautiful location on outskirts of Burlington between Lake Champlain and the Green Mtns. Keeping our options open regarding selection/acceptance process, long way to go on that still.

Selected trip pics below:
Siena Library overlooks their baseball field
Stormy weather made for a pretty sunset near Crown Point, NY
View of the mtns from St. Mike's
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post #17 of 22
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The Inn at Shelburne Farms on Lake Champlain near Burlington, VT.
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post #18 of 22
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Yes, but...


Sorry, I've been away for quite a while.

Quantity, not quality....I was young.

Actually, UVM's ratio was not much different when I was there...63% women.
post #19 of 22
Abbey is planning on applying to both UVM and St Mike's. We'll see, but a visit would be fun. It would be hard to send a daughter to St Mike's as a UVM alum. But it would also be cool to have a child in ski country.
post #20 of 22
Thread Starter 
We did a drive-by of UVM and the Burlington waterfront, including a quick stroll on Church St. Been on the outskirts of Burlington before, but never downtown. Very nice. Geographically, reminded me a little of Luzern, Switzerland. Tuition at St. Michael's (or UVM out of state) is pricey and would be a challenge , particularly since only one of my four have finished school.
post #21 of 22
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Originally Posted by Paul Jones View Post
Abbey is planning on applying to both UVM and St Mike's. We'll see, but a visit would be fun. It would be hard to send a daughter to St Mike's as a UVM alum. But it would also be cool to have a child in ski country.
I couldn't convince any of my first 3 to even consider UVM (too cold). Maybe my son....

Can't discount the value of a Jesuit education. One of my daughters goes to LeMoyne in Syracuse and the education is fantastic. She loves it. I'm thinking St. Mike's is the same..small school, great education, close to a medium sized city. Only difference is proximity to great skiing.
post #22 of 22
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I was speaking to a group of nuns a few years ago in Buffalo. Told them my daughter was visiting a prospective college in Syracuse. They raved about LeMoyne. When I said my daughter was actually there to check out the school of broadcasting/journalism at SU their faces dropped. Though a terrific and dedicated student, daughter did not get accepted at SU, maybe that was the hand of God?
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