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Variation on one mtn for life thread...where retire?

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
I liked that "one mtn for life" thread, but which place would you pick to retire to, considering year round weather issues, nearby off season fun, mellow terrain for old knees/backs, cost of living on a fixed income, interesting nearby town/culture/nonski activities, medical facilities (for old backs). I don't have a firm opinion, but the following come to mind: Deer Valley/Park City, Durango Mtn/Durango, Mt Bachelor/Bend, Tahoe/Reno, maybe even front range ski areas/Denver. Aspen would be great, but too expensive (I know a skiing retiree who chose Carbondale to get close with less insane housing costs). I've seen this topic discussed a few times in ski mags, but what do you guys think? Can anybody who's already made their skiing retirement choice offer lessons learned? Thanks.
post #2 of 22
North Vancouver, B.C.
post #3 of 22
Mt. Bachelor/Bend. Mt. Bachelor get lots of great snow. It has long seasons with wonderful spring skiing. The terrain tends to bore me after a couple days now but will be perfect when I'm older. My actual plans are to retire to Ashland, Oregon where I'll ski Mt. Ashland with SLATZ and take frequent trips to Bend & Bozeman.

[ January 22, 2004, 04:45 PM: Message edited by: Rio ]
post #4 of 22
Quote:
Originally posted by Rio:
Mt. Bachelor/Bend. Mt. Bachelor get lots of great snow. It has long seasons with wonderful spring skiing. The terrain tends to bore me after a couple days now but will be perfect when I'm older. My actual plans are to retire to Ashland, Oregon where I'll ski Mt. Ashland with SLATZ and take frequent trips to Bend & Bozeman.
Rio:

Just out of curiousity, why not Bozeman?

You live there and know it far better than I do, but it seems to really have a lot going for it. Relatively realistic housing costs, a cool ski area 16 miles away, climbing, hiking, fishing, a university influence, etc.

Seems like a neat place to me.

Bob
post #5 of 22
Thread Starter 
Could it be the severity of Montana winters? I know the snow has to come from somewhere, but 30 degrees will do me just as good as 3 degs. Another interesting place I could have mentioned is Ski Santa Fe & TSV and Taos/Santa Fe.
post #6 of 22
Thanks Rio
I guess I don't have to say where I've chosen.
Ashland OR if you didn't read Rio's post.
Bob
Ashland has all of the above, except reasonable housing, plus The Oregon Shakspeare Festival (second best regional theater in the country according to Time Magazine) and it's Rio's home.
For me it's like a small Madison WI with a real mountain in it's back yard.(plus the theater of course)

[ January 22, 2004, 09:42 PM: Message edited by: SLATZ ]
post #7 of 22
Eagle CO, LCC, the town just north of Whistler/Blackcomb I'm 49y/o so I have time to decide... [img]smile.gif[/img] So many great choices.
post #8 of 22
Again, I think I'd have to pick the Boat. Far enough from Denver to keep the crowds down, close enough to Denver to get back to a real city when the need arises. Has an airport in Hayden, cool town, great terrain, AWESOME snow and about the friendliest, most laid back people I've ever met at a resort. It also has good golf courses for the summer, a MUST for me. Having American fly from Hayden to DFW is also a plus. This way I can easily get my regular trips to the islands in from Dallas.

[ January 23, 2004, 03:39 AM: Message edited by: Taylormatt ]
post #9 of 22
Maybe Red Mt. The problem with Red is that I won't be able to ski it at 80! Hell, I can hardly ski it now!

LeeL, I used to live in North Van. Clean city, well behaved people, Mnts and a place called Rec Beach. A little too much rain for me, though.
post #10 of 22
Post Falls, Idaho, or surrounding small towns. You've got Silver and Schweitzer, Mt. Spokane, 49 Degrees North, and Red Mountain all within 2 hours. For fun head to central Washington for Crystal, Snoqualmie, Hyak, etc or trot over to Montana for some big mountain fun.

I like the CHOICES. Plenty of hiking and wilderness camping. The bitter cold isn't really a factor either (I haven't seen cold there like there is in the frozen tundras of Vermont! It's relatively mild compared to this!) They get a fair amount of snow, and the word "ICE" doesn't really exist.

The people are friendly, and the country is beautiful. Real estate isn't that far out pricewise yet, and Spokane offers all the big city amenities you might want at age 65+.

On second thought, why wait till retirement????????
post #11 of 22
Taos, Santa Fe
post #12 of 22
I'm thinking Jay Peak, VT. Lots of woods for hiking and mountain biking in the off season. Not too toursity, yet. Good snow for NE and lots of tree skiing along with some back country routes. Plus it's still close enough to drive to visit family and friends as most are here in the east for me. Although warmer temps, bigger hills and pow may lure me west.
post #13 of 22
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Originally posted by thebuzard:
Maybe Red Mt. The problem with Red is that I won't be able to ski it at 80! Hell, I can hardly ski it now!

LeeL, I used to live in North Van. Clean city, well behaved people, Mnts and a place called Rec Beach. A little too much rain for me, though.
The comment was a little self-serving as I live there now and split time between there and Whistler. I mountain bike, ski, hike etc all from the doorstep.

It does rain a lot though. I didn't mind that as much when I whitewater paddled.
post #14 of 22
Eagle, Gypsum or Glenwood Springs, CO. I'm 50 and far from retirement, but I just can't find anyplace else I like better. There are 8 world class resorts and 4 smaller areas within 2 hours of my home in Eagle.
post #15 of 22
Mmmmmm. I would have to say Boulder, Gunnison or Montrose CO. All in close proximity to ski areas. Boulder, would have more amenities even though it is a college town.
I like the sound of Bozeman also. Somehow, though, I am stuck on CO( since I lived in Denver and know it like the state like the back of my hand) and I hear they give really great tax breaks to seniors too. Something to consider. [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #16 of 22
Quote:
Rio:

Just out of curiousity, why not Bozeman?

Bob -

Ideally, I would like to keep my house in Bozeman and split my time between Ashland and Bozeman. If I am forced to choice I will opt for Ashland because of the milder winters and the greater variety of non-physical things to do. Eventually, I expect old age to make the cold winters of Bozeman less tolerable. I also expect my ability to ski the steep terrain (which is why I love the local ski areas) will diminish.
post #17 of 22
Move to Vermont, Manchester or Rutland, and work for a ski area. As a ski area employee you get comp pass for your area and discounts/Passes for other areas. [Only if you don't work for ASC. A little war is going on for emplyee discouts between non ASC ski areas and ASC areas.] Finding a job should be easy,Ski areas are always looking for mid week help.

Manchester is only 10 hours from DC so you won't have to worry about returning to friends and family. An if you realize you made a mistake, it isn't a far move back.

Vermont is close to major metrapolitan areas and can make day trips if you need a break from being rustic. Manchester is 4 hours from NY and 4 Hours from Boston.

A larger choice of houses availble for sale in Vermont. May be a little more, it is in the East you know. If your lucky the house will come with the obligatory black and white cow.

You won't have to buy cowboy boots/hat just Flannel Shirts.

At any rate congrats for making it so far that you can even think about it.
post #18 of 22
Thread Starter 
Bryan, you make some good pts. I love VT, have skied almost every area in the state. My wife has expressed some interest in heading that way, so you never know, that alone could trump all other ideas. But I've been an east coast skier for nearly 40 yrs and afraid I suffer from a grass is greener syndrome with respect to that great western/rocky mtn combo of powder&sunshine, which I haven't had the pleasure of sampling as frequently.

Another thought, does anyone know American skiing retirees who have relocated to the Alps or spend significant time there for ski season? Something tells me bureaucratically it would be a little tricky to live (and possibly work) over there on a seasonal or permanent basis, but would be interested to hear from somebody who has tried it. Snow's not typically as good as the west, but scenery blows away even Tetons and Western Canada and the cultural ambiance can be revelatory.
post #19 of 22
Vail, simply the best combination of snow, weather, and mountain, and half an hour from a decent airport, and 2hrs from a a major airpor. Some may argue that other areas are better at any one, but the combination can't be beat. And, don't tell me it's to expensive. You can still buy a very nice 2BR in Edwards for $250-$300k.

And, don't forget stuff for the wife. Art galleries, concerts (would you believe the NY Philharmonic as the resident orchestra in the summer?) great restaurants and always something to do.
post #20 of 22
There are a lot of issues regarding where to retire. I used to say that I'd "buy that 25 acres, retire and teach ski in the Poconos". The place is now so developed that I'm glad I never bought the land and it's the last place I'll go for retirement, it's NYC West!

Taxes are a biggie. New Hampshire has (or had), lower taxes so I'd tend to lean in that direction rathar than Vermont .... I know, I know, a whole pack of Vermonters just breathed a sigh of relief. Just remember ... you probably came from someplace else yourself.


Out of the US is an option but who will have us? Is it possible to retire in Canada? Where will the US retirement dollar be then?

Six or seven years to go ...
post #21 of 22
I'm only 44 but I'm always looking at vacation property with the idea that it could be my home someday. Job-related considerations brought me to FL as an adult, but I lived in CO as a kid, so my heart seems to keep pushing me in that direction. My wife and I have discussed buying a condo at one of the CO resorts. When my youngest graduates college, hopefully about twelve years from now, we would "trade" our house in FL for a beachfront condo. Then spend some of the year in FL and some in CO. The best of both worlds. Some of the things we felt needed to be considered for your retirement home are:

1) Healthcare - you need to have access to a decent hospital, decent primary care MDs, and some basic specialty care. Most ski towns have lots of orthopedic surgeons, but do you want to travel three hours for cataract surgery? How about if you have a stroke or heart attack? Many of these towns have excellent healthcare because the lifestyle has attracted good MDs. But you need to check.

2) Airport access - you do want to have the children and grandchildren to visit occasionally.

3) Taxes - this is what attracts a lot of people to FL (besides 75 degree January days) - no state income tax. If I follow through on my plan as outlined above I would still keep FL as my primary residence just for this purpose. Check into state intangible taxes (tax on stocks, bonds, other investments) as these are intended to get the senior citizens who have no "income". Also check local property taxes as these can be substantial.

4) Culture - restaurants are usually abundant in most of these resort towns, but what about other cultural activities (movies, plays, lectures, etc.). You probably won't ski every day so you need other forms of entertainment. If the area has a college this is great for concerts and lectures. You might even want to take a few courses.

5) Religion - be sure they have a house of worship for your religion, or particular religious denomination, if this is at all important to you.

6) Crime - most of these communities are pretty safe, especially when it comes to violent crime. But the elderly are frequently the targets of crime. Also, if you are not going to be living there full-time, you want to be sure your property will be safe in your absence.
post #22 of 22
I'm going this Summer to look for some property in the Ogden Valley....specifically around Eden or Huntsville. My "local" areas will be Snowbasin and Powder Mtn!!
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