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Dynastar 8000 or Mythic Riders for the East

post #1 of 14
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I've been browsing the internet and I've seen some deals on Dynstar 8000's (06/07 model year) and Mythic Riders (07/08 model years) and I was wondering if these skis are any good for eastern skiers.

Most of the reviews I've read on this website have been from western skiers.

I'd been adding them as a 4th pair to my quiver (D-star Course 67, Hotrod Eliminators and Doberman SCs).

Any thoughts?
post #2 of 14
need the info..... In general, they would be fine for east coast on non-hardpack days. I think they would be a little tireing on hardpack all day. Not their core intended use. Not sure what you want them for, your ability, what you ski and where you ski
post #3 of 14
For the least coast, 8k's are the ticket. I rarely bother to bring out my Mythic's (or 8800's) as they aren't as good on "hardpack" or ice as the 8k's.

The 8k's are also great for squeezing through trees, and the other types of things more associated with the east.
post #4 of 14
I demo'd both at Sugarloaf in December and skied both in Val d'Isere. Given that it wasn't really tough in December -- a fair amount of snow and not too icy -- I liked both skis. But really the 8800s/Mythic Riders are a big radius powder ski. I wouldn't object if I had to ski on them but I can't see why you would choose them over the 8000s. (I bought a pair of Legend 4800s for East coast purposes but haven't used them yet!)
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Originally Posted by hitherandthither View Post
I demo'd both at Sugarloaf in December and skied both in Val d'Isere. Given that it wasn't really tough in December -- a fair amount of snow and not too icy -- I liked both skis. But really the 8800s/Mythic Riders are a big radius powder ski. I wouldn't object if I had to ski on them but I can't see why you would choose them over the 8000s. (I bought a pair of Legend 4800s for East coast purposes but haven't used them yet!)
I own both MRs and L8Ks and I am puzzled by your characteristic of the Mythic as a big-radius pow ski, my does not really feel that at all (both my L8K and MR are 178 cm). True, Mythic is much more of a GS-feeling ski and is much more stable at speed than L8K, but at the same time it is surprisingly quick turning for a 88mm ski. L8K is nimbler, and will hold the edge on ice somewhat better, although it is still not quite comparable to a dedicated carver. The achilles heel of the L8K is crud, they get deflected a bit too easily, while Mythic slices through crud effortlessly.

I ski in the West and Mythic now became my everyday ski over a pair of L8Ks and a dedicated powder boards. Last winter I actually took the L8K's to the East Coast to ski for a couple of days in New England. I loved them on the groomed- a lot of fun, even at stupid speed, but whenever I tried to get into the frozen crud off-trail, they immediately gave up on me.

So if you venture off-trail in the east often, my guess that the burlier Mythic will be a better ski, even though it is less turny. Otherwise go with the L8Ks, it is a terrific ski if you know its limitations. 178 seems to be the sweet spot for both models, 172 is also recommended.

Alex

P.S. Disclaimer: my L8K is one of the earlier models with 20m sidecut, not the current model's 19m.
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Originally Posted by alexzn View Post
I own both MRs and L8Ks and I am puzzled by your characteristic of the Mythic as a big-radius pow ski, my does not really feel that at all (both my L8K and MR are 178 cm).
I must have misspoken because everything you say seems right to me -- the word "burly" fits the Mythic Riders very well in my mind. The MRs turn well -- don't get me wrong -- but they aren't as nimble as the 8000s. What you say about cutting through crud sounds right. I didn't do a lot of that. In the end, it just depends on what you're looking for in a ski.
post #7 of 14
I have a pair of 06/07 Legend 8000's in a 178 with minimal use (like new) that I am willing to sell (with bindings) at a very good price. If you're serious about buying, PM me and we can talk details.
post #8 of 14

8000's

8000's are the ultimate all mtn ski for the East ! < 175 lbs go 165cm, <220lbs go 172.
post #9 of 14

Well...

I am not sure about the ultimate all-mtn characterization for the L8K, mostly due to the lack of crud performance. New England crud is one of the nastiest, so to me something like a TigerShark would be a better choice for the East coast, better edge grip and much better crud performance with enough width to float on a very occasional soft day. I am not sure how the sharks perform in bumps, probably not that stellar. L8K is a very good bump ski.

Alex
post #10 of 14

tigershark

The Tigershark is classified as a carving ski. All mtn catagories are in the 80+ mm these days.
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The Tigershark is classified as a carving ski. All mtn catagories are in the 80+ mm these days.
Truly. Putting 8k and Tigershark in the same paragraph is like......:

The 8K has had LOTS of positive comments regarding crudbusting too. I often use mine at Whistler with 5 pound chunks of "powder" without any problem.
post #12 of 14

Mythics worked pretty well....

Agree with ya' alexzn...
The 172 Mythics handled any of the very few crud-blocks and provided nice float through ~14" on the day of demoing in northern NewEngland...last season. Granted..No hardpack...it just doesn't feel like it was made for it in general. At 170lbs...an 8000 just isn't a ton of fun on a 100% NE hardpack day..so for me, right now...it's a no-brainah'. For now I'm happy at medium speeds....where they(Mythics) worked well..and they were at an insane price online...can't beat that.

$.01
Steve
post #13 of 14
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Originally Posted by alexzn View Post
New England crud is one of the nastiest, so to me something like a TigerShark would be a better choice for the East coast, better edge grip and much better crud performance with enough width to float on a very occasional soft day.
TigerShark probably can do somewhat better in heavy crud but it's a much heavier ski than the 8K. The 8K can perform quite well in these conditions as well and it will last you much longer in a warmer/wetter day.

BTW, the Tigersharks were my faves out of 6-8 skis over an early spring demo weekend. But, my thighs sure felt the difference after a couple of runs.
post #14 of 14
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Originally Posted by chanwmr View Post
TigerShark probably can do somewhat better in heavy crud but it's a much heavier ski than the 8K. The 8K can perform quite well in these conditions as well and it will last you much longer in a warmer/wetter day.

BTW, the Tigersharks were my faves out of 6-8 skis over an early spring demo weekend. But, my thighs sure felt the difference after a couple of runs.
Valid comments from everyone. My personal impression was that frozen crud is what truly frustrates my L8Ks, they just turn from being a fund ski into a struggle. Granted, my L8Ks are an early model, and have quite a few days on them.
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