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post #2 of 21
Wow, I remember a time when Mt. Bachelor was considered #1 in lifts.
This is really sad & scary stuff.
JF
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I'm glad I don't ski there.

I'd start packing a parachute if I were you.
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Chalk Up one more success story for the Big Corperation

It seems that not so many years ago Most Ski areas were privately owned.

So one more time, (What can I say)

Someone or some thing always seems to get neglected to support the BIG overhead attached to large publicly traded companies.

Its the same reason we fear Nuclear power in this country. Nuclear reactors can be safe but we can’t trust a BIG CORPERATION to play by the rules and keep us safe.

They do not care about anything or anybody.
post #6 of 21
When I was a kid a ski area in Western New York (Grostall) had a chair lift start running in reverse with chairs stacking up at the bottom and a kid was killed when he was struck with a down loading chair.
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Wow,

The kind of safety lapses reported in the article would close down any conveyor system that transports materials like coal. These lift systems carry people, and knowing that mechanics are defeating the safeguards is truly shocking.

I skied there last year. Never again.

Michael
post #9 of 21
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Originally Posted by WILDCAT View Post
Wow,

The kind of safety lapses reported in the article would close down any conveyor system that transports materials like coal. These lift systems carry people, and knowing that mechanics are defeating the safeguards is truly shocking.

I skied there last year. Never again.

Michael
You'll notice that the top four people at Mt Bachelor were fired a month ago. It's unclear whether this was a local incompetence problem or a broader corporate issue with POWDR. POWDR is certainly all about bean counting. It might have been that bonus for those tools who got fired was tied to operating profit. They may have decided to get as large a bonus as possible even if it meant dangerous lift operations and pissing off the locals. A general manager is supposed to know how to balance operating profit against safety and a sustainable business. From a POWDR corporate view, it very well could have been a simple hiring mistake combined with poor corporate oversight. There are tons of incompetent managers in the world who are very good at managing up and reporting nothing but glowing good news to their boss. There are very few bosses out there who enjoy firing people both out of empathy for them and from admitting that they made a mistake hiring them in the first place.

Killington also has a lengthy set of issues. Vermont is much better about safety inspections so I doubt that lift safety is the same issue. Local management has certainly gotten the town and their customer base upset. Again, nobody knows if this is a corporate edict from Utah or a local general manager set of decisions. It's certainly not wise to have the town upset at you when your Texas partner is trying to develop a base village with many hundreds of millions of dollars at stake.
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Powdr Corp. =
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After reading the bendliving.com article, I realize my limited experience at Mt. Bachelor is perhaps correct. I go to Mt. Bachelor a few times per season and I've been stuck on the Pine Martin chair numerous times for about 45 mins (I began to time repair each time). Once, or twice it might be OK, but over the past four years, this has happened on every visit. Even during PNSA YSL ski championships. cmr
post #12 of 21
I started going to Mt. Bachelor in 1971 and went numerous times every year until I moved to Montana in 2000. I've skied there in unbelievable conditions from freezing rain to gale force winds to snow coming down so fast you couldn't see 20 feet in front of you. I never got stuck on a lift nor can I remember a lift stopping for more than a minute or two. My kids and I have many fond memories of skiing there. It is really a shame to hear what has become of the resort.
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I agree with Rio. Regardless of ski lift issues, I've skied excellent powder at Mt. Bachelor and had a great experience. Still, perhaps management will change how they support their infrastructure and employees. cmr
post #14 of 21
Being a local at (Batchelor) that's how Jon Cumming spells it,: for 28 years I could tell you things, since Powdr Corp. forced Pape out........
post #15 of 21
Slider - Figured you'd weigh in - sure understand why you got delayed the first day we tried to meet up. Feel like I dodged a bullet or two if that was the least of my problems at Batchelor.

Hope the mgmt turnover and PR from this article make for a turning point at MB. POWDR can dismiss the gripes about Killington this year as an expected (if not welcome) response to their changed pricing and market focus. But they simply have to deal with this one -- it's the ski operator's equivalent of the Tylenol poisoning scare, they mustprovide a visible and reassuring response or most folks will switch to Advil.

I'll think 2x before skiing Oregon again given what this article states about lift safety.
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post #17 of 21
I may have missed something, but Max - are you the author of the article?


aaron
post #18 of 21

Corperate Responce

The article seems to be saying (There is Nothing Wrong) and the Local media if fabricating problems where none exist?

However they did fire the top 4 people at the resort this spring (WHY)

And I have read of several bad experiences related to poor lift service this past winter. These complaints came from Skiers who post on the Internet not the local Bend media.

That’s all
post #19 of 21
"This story marks the second time in seven months that Kevin Max and Cutter Communications have taken exception to the operations at Mt. Bachelor,"

That Max is not our Max, but the Cutter is Kiki Cutter, former US Ski Team great, who grew up skiing at Bachelor.
post #20 of 21
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This just arrived in my inbox:
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Dear Mt. Bachelor Pass Holder:
As a Mt Bachelor passholder we understand your interest in matters concerning the management and operation of this great mountain. An article in the most recent Bend Business Review has cast Mt Bachelor in the spotlight amid unsubstantiated accusations of negligence, compromised safety and less-than-sound business practices....
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The rest is more or less what is in the Bachelor detailed response link above.


How do we get to the truth of the matter?
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From the alpinezone "administrator" -

IMO, it's really time to get over this Powdr thing...

Right. Cool - you get on the lift first:
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