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post #151 of 157
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

Do we know if they actually shipped some skis?

Found a nice summary on Brodie/Carradan here:  http://llewtrah.blogspot.com/2008/08/convicted-con-artist-has-new-name-and.html
 

 

Today Liftopia on Facebook had a "cover" with Carradan skis.  $8,000 ski jackets and $19,000 skis using the finest proprietary materials that aren't even listed on the web site?  I had to check this out on exoticskis.com and EPICSKI (where I found this link).  It appears selling stuff to the ultra high-net-worth is profitable, since spending that much money makes them feel good by setting themselves apart from us mere mortals.  Of course, developing a ski to win a gold medal in skiing has no prohibition of cost, and I don't see Carradan skis on the World Cup.  Are these skis any good?  I'll never know since I can't demo the skis.   I did see www.exoticskis,com questioning the background of the owner (see below).  I guess Liftopea likes promoting expensive skis along with their discounted lift tickets.

 

Carradan Skis
USA      http://www.carradanskis.com/   
 
Ski Types:   All Mountain, Carving
   



Rumors abound that "Simon Carradan" of Carradan skis is in-fact a new identity of a man by the name of "Simon Brodie" who has a storied history with hyper-expensive, hypo-allergenic cats and other infamous business ventures. See one post at:

Running With The Pack

We asked Simon Carradan:
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(on June 28, 1:52PM eastern)
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"Hello Simon,
Rumors are floating around the ski forums questioning if Simon Carradan of Carradan Skis is Simon Brodie of FlexPets and hypoallergenic cat background.
Are you Simon Brodie, and if not, would you be willing to post your historical bio to the ski forums to show your background?
With ski prices at $12k and $19k per pair, people want to see the background of the company's leader.
We just want to bring the facts of ski companies to the masses.
Thanks."
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[update: July 28 - 4:16 PM eastern]
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"Eric:
We are involved in some legal issues regarding some of the spurious information that has been posted out there. I will talk with our attorneys to see what we can and can’t say at the moment, but they are formulating a response to these inquiries.. I am sure you understand.
If you have seen any postings, I would appreciate you forwarding a link so that we can forward these to our legal team.
I the meantime, rest assured that the skis are well into development and as promised, we will have the skis across to you by the beginning of the season.
Regards
Simon Carradan.
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As a side note, Simon emailed us on June 4, 2008 and said the Carradan Skis company address is 50 Meadow Village Drive in Big Sky, MT. The phone number listed on the website is (406)551-6060.

According to records of FLEXPETZ HOLDINGS (filed by ASENSIA), COLDSTAR CAPITAL (filed by TETROS INC.) and other records filed with the SEC relating Simon Francis Brodie to FlexPetz/Asensia:(link)

ASENSIA, INC
Form Type: NT 10-Q
Filing Date: 8/14/2007
CIK: 0001353488
Address: 50 MEADIW VILLAGE DRIVE, #208
PO BOX 161643
City, State, Zip: BIG SKY, Montana 59716
Telephone: (406) 551-6061
Fiscal Year: 12/31

(SAME ADDRESS AND NEARLY IDENTICAL PHONE (6060 instead of 6061...yep!)

More info on Simon Brodie: [unverified by ExoticSkis...just a link for interest...]
http://www.messybeast.com/asheras.htm

Here is the promo information from Carradan Skis:
Super premium brand from Simon Carradan in Big Sky, Montana. Edges are cryogenically frozen down to -450F/-270C (whoa!) for strengthening. Ash, bamboo, okume blended wood cores. Patent-pending technology on edges and cores. $12,000 all-mountain "Copperhead" model (120-88-110 in 167cm and 176cm) and $19,000 twintip "Mamba" model (116-72-106 in 166 and 174cm). RFID serial number ID tag embedded in the skis. Skis come with plastic case! British skiing celebrity Martin Bell will personally fly to your destination and hand-deliver these skis. 12-16 week construction time. 6 month waiting list as

post #152 of 157

Whoa, four year old thread!  Surprised that these skis are still around...or...maybe I should say for sale?

post #153 of 157

I'm not surprised.   

 

 

 

The incentives to sell to a super high end market at super high end prices are just as strong today as four years ago.
 

post #154 of 157

Four year old thread indeed, but a new Liftopia photo in Facebook just appeared.  Sure, a $5000 telephoto lens will greatly outperform a kit zoom lens, but with stuff like skis, golf clubs, tennis rackets, etc. the benefit tails off before the costs get too high.  I can't knock the Sterling model of skis since the customer is getting something custom that skis well (and is geared towards the HNW), but this Carradan thing is ridiculous. I'll bet he is selling more than a few pair a year.  His margins have to be incredible, with a $300 ski going for $19,000.  All he has to do is dump 10 pair a year at retail and he can afford to live well and ski most anywhere in the USA and Canada.

post #155 of 157
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Originally Posted by quant2325 View Postbut this Carradan thing is ridiculous. I'll bet he is selling more than a few pair a year. 

 

Why is it ridiculous?    He's selling intangibles. 

 

We can debate all day whether they're Veblen goods or credence goods or simply an instance of the snob effect, but it seems to me that all these 'ridiculous' arguments are based on the (false, imo) assumption that everything has to have practical utility in order to justify the price asked.     I am including resale value in practical utility.

post #156 of 157

But remember this guy has a history of not delivering stuff that was well-hyped.  Do we know if any of these things have been seen in use anywhere?  

post #157 of 157
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

But remember this guy has a history of not delivering stuff that was well-hyped. 

 

Oh, I completely acknowledge that;  certainly uncertainty over delivery deflates a lot of intangibles.    For me.

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