I broke every buckle on my L10 ACD's that I bought last season in about 50 days of skiing. The liners packed out and have put me in continuous pain, AND the rep at mt. hood would not help me with any of the problems. problem solved, however, when I bought some sollie course axes for $225, new. The lange's were ok while they were new but the liners pack out too much (more than faintly reminiscent of the company that bought lange -- rossi, the buckles are very flimsy, and the customer service is horrendous. Sorry i've just had a bad experience. aside from uncountable canting problems because the boots arent very adjustable, they are quite powerful boots. they have exceptionally good rearward support and are just the right stiffness for me (165 lb racer) in all terrain except cruddy, slushy bumps at jackson (personal experience). If they fit your foot and you can avoid ripping the buckles apart so you never have to deal with the company, they're fun boots. if.