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BRO 179 vs. 183

post #1 of 29
Thread Starter 
Tax checks are getting reeeeeeal close and I don't know about anybody else, but I'm getting skis with mine. BROs are the obvious drool-happy choice but I'm torn between the 179 and the 183. I have heard great things about both, but obviously have no experience whatsoever with either board, so anyone who has insight into either's advantages is encouraged to pipe up. I would be getting the soft version of either as it's going to be my pow-specific set of skis and won't be brought out when it's icy in the least.

I am 5'9" and about 165ish, 25yo who is primarily an east coast skier who normally sees just below 40 days a year on the slopes (hopefully to increase next year!), 1-2 weeks of which is done out west at minimum. I ski very fast and aggressively, and I looooove my trees and freshies. I love the really steep stuff, but I'm trying to work on my airs, drops, etc. this year so maybe keep that in mind. I'm not a racer but i take my advancement in skiing very seriously and want a tool for expanding my horizons. These skis will only be brought out when we have over a foot as my mojos (176cm) handle everything below that perfectly so please anybody chime in and let me know what you think! Thanks in advance!
post #2 of 29
If you intend to step it up get the 183s for sure. If you intend to use them in above a foot of fresh the soft flex for flotation is right for sure.

I'm close to your size and weight and the 179 Bros I own are seriously lacking.
Plus your 176 Mojos are already close in length although the Bros are a different breed.

If you can't get hold of a 183 go for a 183 Gotama instead. Fits for the same purpose and tons of fun too.
post #3 of 29

Bro If a good choise

I am 5'10 190 + I have two seasons on 179 Stiff BRO's Very happy with the ski. Very Stable for a short (179) Fun in tight places and real steep places. I would buy them again.

I skied the 183 Stiffs for 1 day. Real nice ski. A little stiff but real great edge hold in hard snow. They felt just like the 179's in powder and chop maybe just a tad more stable in the choped up stuff.

BTW 183's are no longer in production? So if you want 183 softs you are looking for a resale. (Good luck with that) I think I might know of 1 pair up for grabs.
post #4 of 29
Thread Starter 
Hmmm... I thought they were bringing it back, but I guess I'm a dreamer... MTT, at your weight, how do they float? I'm just curious. I have heard nothing but praise for the 179 and would be interested to hear what mounting position you used. Also, just out of curiosity, what would your buddy be looking to get for his 183s and where/how were they mounted?

POWHOG- how do you find them lacking? Is it perhaps a byproduct of binding mount? Maybe flex pattern in the conditions you use them in? Just trying to pick the ol' brain, y'know...
post #5 of 29
The 183 Softs that might still be for sale are from Marsholson TGR These were Demos from a CO shop.

Also Ski fish bum TGR Demos from a shop @ Solitude UT.

search TGR Gear Swap, Or just put the question to Pat @ pmgear. He will know.

For you if 179 go stiff and look for skis made this past winter or now.

For 183 go for the Softs = not soft

BTW for me these skis do not really (FLOAT) for me in powder untill I am really moving.
However ther to not dive to the bottom. They give me a very stable nuteral platform in powder that allows me to do pretty much whatever I want. Perfect for wipping around tree's and rocks in powder. Very confidence inspiring.

Chopped up snow and groomer you can really get moving and feel control.

BTW you have to be a pretty good skier to appriciate the BRO's They don't haver much sidecut and on frim snow you have to know how to work a ski to rail turns on edge. Its not a tilt and go ski.
post #6 of 29
Thread Starter 
OH THATS RIGHT! I remember seeing him with that post and nobody bit on anything... That's a great reminder! Thanks! Emailing Pat right now!
post #7 of 29
The 179s are too soft/noodly and short for my taste, they have a clear speed limit. I went already 2 cm back with the mounting but they just lack the stability I'd like for a bc weapon. That's why I try to sell them off and replaced them by 190 Gots. Much happier camper now but If focus is on trees get the 183 length as mentioned. Me 5'10'', 170 lbs.

Edit: turning the Bros is NOT a problem IMO
post #8 of 29
we are bringing the 183 back next year.

in fact, we're taking pre-orders now on them.

Transmission released today from PMGear CEbrO, Splat:

"I just got off the phone with AK bro Aldo. Due to popular demand, we're going to do another run of AK 183 Bros. We'll only do 100 pair this year. That's it. Due to the rising cost of everything involved, from materials to shipping, we're bumping the price to $739 this year, but will do maggot preorders at $639 for October delivery starting right now. The skis will be the stiff version only, since there wasn't much difference between the stiffs and softs this past season and everyone loved the hell out of both flexes.

Since our IT guy (Twoplanker) is hanging around the hospital with his brand-new son (he preordered the kid nine months ago), the website is not set up to take the preorder price of $639, plus $30 shipping (that's $669), nor will this special be listed on the site. For everyone who's been emailing me for 183s, now is the time to act. If you want in on this deal, you can PayPal $639 to sales@pmgearusa.com. Please include physical address, telephone number and email addy in the comment box.

Thanks,

-splat"
post #9 of 29
Thread Starter 
Holy pap smear! I thought they were coming back! Hmmm... It's not at used prices, but maybe they will let me put 'em on layaway like a true douche. I'll have to weigh the options... Depends on how cheap Marshal and Pat are willing to let their respective next year's 179 (100 waist) demos go for... AARGH! Decisions, decisions!

Thanks for the info guys, you are maggots truly worth your boards!
post #10 of 29
Thread Starter 
Too bad the preorder process on the skis isn't the same preorder process twoplanker used to get his kid...
post #11 of 29
I have the 179's from the original run in the Quebec factory and the 183's from Europe. I got in over 200 days on the 179's and they've softened with use, just 2 days in on the 183's - both 'soft' flexes.

Many minute changes have happened between the design and construction of the two models. They ski similarly but not the same. I'd say get in on the deal for the 183. The construction quality has improved and it's not that much longer.
post #12 of 29
Thread Starter 
Trigger pulled. 183s are preordered from Splat. Thanks for all the help, guys and gals. Stiff only though. *WHEW!*
post #13 of 29
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Originally Posted by bklyn View Post
I have the 179's from the original run in the Quebec factory and the 183's from Europe. I got in over 200 days on the 179's and they've softened with use, just 2 days in on the 183's - both 'soft' flexes.

Many minute changes have happened between the design and construction of the two models. They ski similarly but not the same. I'd say get in on the deal for the 183. The construction quality has improved and it's not that much longer.
Good to hear it.
DoWork, you'll enjoy!
post #14 of 29
All I know is that the 183's were made in the AK factory in Switzerland as opposed to the 179's, which I think were/are made in Reno (and Ty can chime in on this).

While I still have yet to get on a pair of the 183's (had the opp this past weekend, but I was toying around with the mounting points on my Lib Techs), I can say that AK's other skis, the King Salmon (which I do own) ROCK!

That, coupled with the fact that everybody I know who is familiar with Bros LOVES the 183 and can't stop talking about it.
post #15 of 29
Thread Starter 
Yes dookey, the 179, 188, 192 and Brocker are made in Reno.

The 164, 174, and 183 (I think the 195 is too, but I'm not 100% sure) are made in Switzerland, next to those silly cuckoo clocks and behind the cheese with all the holes in it.
post #16 of 29
The 195 was basically a re-badged "Super Salmon" (i.e. the big brother of my 180cm King Salmon) and indeed made by Aldo in Switz.
post #17 of 29
Thread Starter 
cool man, I'm super stoked about the 183s... I've printed out a pic of them and have it on my desk at work, and at my house... I dream about 'em... and now I get to decide what bindings to use for 'em... I'm leaning towards the Duke, but also thinking about something a tad lighter... Any suggestions?
post #18 of 29
I'm a fan of the Mojo 15.

But there's always the Jester (the fixed heel version of the Duke).
post #19 of 29
If you are not going to tour? Just get a good alpine binding. I suggest the Solomon Z12/ VERY Light

MTT

No way on the PX look/ Rossi.. To heavy for nothin extra
post #20 of 29
Thread Starter 
hmmm... I can get a set of Mojo 15s for $100 right now, but those sollies are great bindings... Time for some research...
post #21 of 29
Mojos for $100!!!!

That's a veritable no-brainer!
post #22 of 29
Thread Starter 
yeah but the kicker is that I can get sollie Z12Ti's for maybe $10 more and I already have Mojos on my, er... Mojo 90s. I have to think about it... Decisions, decisions...
post #23 of 29
go with what you know.

if you have Mojo's already and dig them AND they are $10 cheaper, what's to decide?
post #24 of 29
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Originally Posted by dookey67 View Post
go with what you know.

if you have Mojo's already and dig them AND they are $10 cheaper, what's to decide?
What he said^^^

I didn't have bindings for mine when I was setting them up so I chose Jesters. Something happened in the process and I ended up with Dukes.
I'm happy with them, but would have been happy with the jesters.


For you, the Mojo is what you have and what you know, so go with it.
post #25 of 29
I like the Z-12 It is very light and at the same time locks you very tight to the ski. no slop exelent control. however some people have had issues with the Z-12 durability. Real high end guys like Tyrone Shoelaces broke the binding.

I cracked one of the mounts where a screw goes into the ski, It had no affect on performance and was replced for free (The shop had extras)

So full disclosure, I would buy Z-12 again because of the weight / performace ratio.

But Weight ain't everything on an Alpine set-up.
100$ for Mojo 15's does sound like a very good deal
post #26 of 29
I really tied one on last night. Please ignore my post. If you have the power to delete it and would like to do so, please.

Enjoy your Bros, I've heard a lot of good things about them.
post #27 of 29
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Originally Posted by MTT View Post
I like the Z-12 It is very light and at the same time locks you very tight to the ski. no slop exelent control. however some people have had issues with the Z-12 durability. Real high end guys like Tyrone Shoelaces broke the binding.
I may have broke mine, but until I did, I was really really liking it. I agree on the points you mentioned regarding light weight, no slop, and excellent control. It's a great binding if you're not jumping off of stuff.
post #28 of 29
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces View Post
I may have broke mine, but until I did, I was really really liking it. I agree on the points you mentioned regarding light weight, no slop, and excellent control. It's a great binding if you're not jumping off of stuff.
Hey I jump off of stuff:

But then you take jump off of stuff to a whole other level:

I think hucking from great hights to hard uneven surfaces that cause the ski to HYPER FLEX is what can break the heel.
I don't think many are in your world
post #29 of 29
i have a pair of 2008 bro 183 softs and absolutly love them, got a great deal on em toward the end of the season. i'm waiting now to test em out in south america.

if you can find some 183s from last yr get them, or get on board and pre order yours for nx yr
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